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church on the game-changer radio network

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Jimmy judge on the game-changing network

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good evening faint black the spoke radio

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for the masses I just love saying that

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Matt says in my best Frank Zappa

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I'm your host Jimmy Church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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good evening let's do this man tonight

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live from Las Vegas Nevada

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Joshua P Warren is here in just ten days

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it's the storm area51 event going down

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he lives in Las Vegas tomorrow night

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Thursday night is another Fator night

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check this out

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just ten days from today the storm

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the last count was over three million

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people clicked and said they were going

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right well as announced last night the

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original alien stock to take place in

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Rachel Nevada has been canceled Maddie

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the guy that started the storm area 51

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event on Facebook has pulled out he is

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now joined up with like a hotel or some

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some event crew back in Las Vegas and

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nightclubs over 21 so if that's fine

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that's great you know in fact there are

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no real events taking place there

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the books being held at a souvenir stand

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it is there is let me continue

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of I do I want to see what actually

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weekend next weekend I can't even tell

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that all but we're done we're done so I

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actually kind of torn on one hand it

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would have been cool and and just just

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listen to me for a second you know I'm

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have been cool to have a hundred

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thousand people show up for some kind of

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that right we all know that it was

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people clicking on a UFO event on

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Facebook where did that come from

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right but to have a hundred thousand

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people show up or a million or 50,000

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the middle of the desert takes logistics

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beyond measure and I am talking about

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trucks and trucks and trucks of water

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and food right at bathrooms parking gas

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the whole you know and so that's what

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you have to do is you have to pull out

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and Bale there's that part and then the

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other side of it is I don't want to

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encourage anybody to go out there for

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something that I would never go and do

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and expose myself no food no water no

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gas stuck right

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there's just no way no and but you're

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torn because now it's like the man wins

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had problems from the word go and that

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it probably wouldn't happen and that

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you know and now I don't know what's

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gonna happen next Friday right you know

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the thought of a bunch of teenagers

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showing up you know gamers video gamers

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not prepared for the desert or anything

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else to showing up at their Hello Kitty

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backpacks and you know some comic-con

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t-shirt you know showing up in the

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middle of the desert getting themselves

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in a really really bad position I don't

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want anything to do with that and but

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there's another part about this how many

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hardcore seekers of knowledge really

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want to go out that want to make the

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tractor race he'll make the truck to the

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black mailbox get out there and say that

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they've done it and go and hang out with

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other like-minded individuals that part

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is cool but that part is in the hundreds

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all right so how many of them are

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actually gonna show up or not show up

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because they don't want to be a

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the mucky-muck and the craziness one

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thing is for sure now that it is playing

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out like this

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because there is no infrastructure there

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is nothing going on there's nothing

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forget about it forget whatever events

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are planned go and do something on the

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strip in Las Vegas go to an alien themed

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nightclub and and go and get a t-shirt

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and have fun that to me sounds like a

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good time I love this country

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I love capitalism and that sounds like a

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good time I've trust me if I we were not

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booked up we would be in Vegas and Rita

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knows that she would love to go but

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there will be serious critics now no

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matter what on both sides and that's the

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part that's gonna suck let's say nobody

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shows up nobody it's just crickets right

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we're gonna have to hear the the

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criticism on that that you know it says

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not really there's nothing about area 51

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there's something going on the UFO

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community doesn't support it so there's

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you know the the numbers were never

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there the three million were fake or

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there's gonna be here tons of that or

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people actually do show up then you're

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gonna have critics on that side about

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who is attending and and teasing and

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making fun you know you're gonna have

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some kind of opportunistic things that

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are gonna happen you know bottled water

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for 20 bucks right that that kind of

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thing I it's it's gonna be bad either

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way and the the media who is going to

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show up there is going to if it's if

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it's a positive thing right if there's

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people there they're gonna make fun of

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it if nobody shows up they're gonna make

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fun of it and that's the truth there

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isn't going to be any serious anything

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that's going to come out of it and

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that's the part for me that just sucks

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few weeks ago on the show and that is

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10,000 15,000 people actually making it

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to the back gate and in a nice kumbaya

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moment and maybe 50 or 100 people get

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invited inside and and a quick tour of

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and campfires you know that I would love

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I really would you know and again you

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pockets right well we're gonna find out

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in ten days ten days I can't believe it

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it's coming down

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ten days next Friday September 20th the

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storm area51 event what's really going

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to happen are we going to be totally

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shocked and surprised half million

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people show up or nobody there you go

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this is fade to black and our guest

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tonight to talk about all of this and

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this is the thing everybody we have

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governments we have the Sheriff's

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Air Force all of this comes into play we

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infrastructure and they have to prepare

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they can't prepare for nothing right

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there's all kinds of things in play here

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we're gonna discuss all of it tonight

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Joshua P Warren I'm your host Timmy

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Church on the game changer radio network

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and kgr a the planet this has paid the

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black I'll be right back after this

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short break stay with us

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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you know Jimmy Church our guest tonight

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Joshua P Warren live from Las Vegas

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tomorrow night Brian force it's gonna be

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here live from Turkey and a special

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guest Rob will be joining the show for

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the first time Thursday night is another

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Fator night with open lines all night

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long this weekend I'll be over at

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coast-to-coast am so no rest no rest but

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that's how we do it just like Joshua P

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Warren tonight we're gonna be talking

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about all angles of the storm area51

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event of course Joshua does live in Las

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Vegas he's an investigator he has been

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pioneering the amazing relationship

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between the mind energy matter and

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strange phenomena for a very long time

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author of 20 best-selling books he

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travels the world investigating

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mysterious phenomena and made the cover

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of the science journal back in 2004 and

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his website is Joshua P Warren calm I've

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got to just say a big warm welcome

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welcome back Joshua how you doing man

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I'm doing great thank you Jimmy we

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always have the best discussions and

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it's an honor to be back on your show

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yeah you know I always look forward to

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having you on and one of the you know

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one of the aspects of it is I appreciate

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your your candor your honesty the black

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and white way that you look at things

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and you're always trying to get to the

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bottom of it no matter what it is

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whether it's from a scientific level or

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spiritual level look into the sky's

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level that's that's what you do and and

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just thank you for that and we always

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have great conversations so let me just

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say this but let me start off here I

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haven't had Las Vegas in the news like

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this in in quite a while the city itself

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are they taught I know that there's a

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lot of events that are scheduled inside

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of Las Vegas you know different

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nightclubs and over 21 establishments

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are doing a lot of alien themed

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I don't really see that in Las Vegas

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when I'm there even though area 51 is

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right at the road is is that the true

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vibe of Las Vegas right now are they

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talking about storm area 51 oh yeah oh

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yeah as a matter of fact I sent you a

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picture I'm not sure if you have seen it

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yet i dad i tweeted it

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i put it on my facebook page it's a

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picture of me at the area 51 command

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post where I saw a cartoon once I don't

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know if it was Bugs Bunny or Mickey

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Mouse but the character had you know a

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telephone up to both ears having like

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two conversations at the same time and

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their papers being hand them in and then

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the the red phone is ringing and I'm

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telling ya that is pretty much what what

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is my world has been like it's been a

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little chaotic and I want to make it

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clear right up front you know this

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already but I would like all the

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listeners to know that I am NOT nor have

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I ever been affiliated with the storm

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area51 event I've never endorsed it I've

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never promoted it but the timing has

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been really good for me because I am

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here conducting all this UFO research in

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Las Vegas I have a good relationship

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with the media so I've been on the TV

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quite a bit and I've been in the

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newspaper and so people know to contact

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me just to talk about what's going on

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here and it I was listening of course to

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the start of your show and when it comes

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to something to do here that's alien

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oriented well every Saturday I created I

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produce the creepy Vegas ghost and you

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fo show rich I bill is sixty fun

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paranormal minutes and a bar and so I am

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I'm right there on the front lines Jimmy

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and everybody around here who has

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anything to say about area 51 suddenly

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feels like okay it's now trendy for me

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to talk about this and I am taking

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advantage of it because I know it won't

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last forever

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the

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well you never know it could turn into

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some kind of annual thing that this year

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is is our first September 20th but who

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knows what may happen next year on

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September 20th maybe with some with some

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planning and a little bit of logistics

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involved that it could turn into a great

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disclosure type of weekend what did you

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make of when he started to see this bust

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into the mainstream media you don't want

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to cross like 500,000 people right and

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the mainstream media started to pick up

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on it and you know it crossed a million

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and then and then two million page was

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taken down then put back up what did you

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make of all of that hype is is the media

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okay now without talking about this

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subject well you know thank you for for

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recognizing my honesty and I'm gonna be

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very honest with with you and everybody

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else out there I'm walking a fine line

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tonight on this program with you I am

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going to break something that I mean I I

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could have sent this to you in advance

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but I wanted to wait till we were on the

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air and and what I'm telling you here is

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that we're in a we're in a delicate

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situation because areas 51 is not

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Disneyland and we're we're we're toying

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around with the deepest most secret

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levels of the government and classified

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information and I think at first when

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all of the excitement kicked in and

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people started just sort of fantasizing

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about the idea of let's just charge in

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there and see what the aliens look like

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it seemed like a fun thing but as we've

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gotten closer and closer there is a

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tension that is palpable and I will tell

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you right up front I personally have not

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been directly approached by any of the

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men in black telling me to stop what I'm

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doing you know don't talk about this but

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I know other people

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have had similar experiences and I also

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have friends who are associated with the

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military that I think would stop

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associating with me if I were out there

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doing anything that would jeopardize

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national security so I am in this

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position where I have some fascinating

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UFO oriented information and a new piece

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of footage that again I saved just to

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break for you tonight on the show and

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and i-i've al you what's happening here

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right now because it has made people

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more comfortable than ever talking to me

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about it but I'm getting the sense that

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the mainstream media is all of a sudden

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not promoting this like they were and

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therefore I believe there has been some

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kind of influence from the government

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somebody in some position has said look

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we don't want this to happen and you see

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what's happening now Jimmy the the there

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was never much organization to begin

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with but now the whole thing seems to be

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unraveling and flying apart yeah it's

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collapsed and with with the announcement

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well you know Rachel Nevada does have an

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official website how many people live in

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Rachel 50 it may be okay alright I felt

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like I was being generous but they did

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have they do have an official website

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and good for them and I'm the official

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site it was sent to me yesterday where

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it announced that alien stock the event

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has been canceled that Maddie the young

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man that started the Facebook page the

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store Mary 51 event has picked up stakes

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said that nothing was you know he took

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his toys and went home to Las Vegas and

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I think it was the right proper thing to

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do actually I have no problems with an

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event at

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at Rachael at the alien remember when

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bob lazar did that back in what you know

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early 90s and you know that a couple

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hundred people show up there and they

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had an army tent i think and and set up

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and he and he gave a present that's

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that's cool having 50,000 people show up

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in Reichle you got a problem right

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there's a logistical nightmare involved

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there so but by them announcing it

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yesterday i believe it was posted

430
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yesterday I act up Joshua and I thought

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to myself hmm were they told not to have

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this event right and that that's a very

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easy easy conclusion to jump to but for

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a lot of for a lot of very good reasons

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too but were they told you know what

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it's not gonna happen do you feel that

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that might be the case yes and I love

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the movie fat man a little boy which you

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know those names refer to the atomic

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bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and

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Nagasaki and general groves in that

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movie who was really the the military

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guy in charge of the Manhattan Project

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was played by Paul Newman and so in this

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film they're portraying this general

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trying to control this group of often

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sort of bohemian thinking scientists and

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he's putting all this pressure on

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Oppenheimer to make them snap into line

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and stop worrying about the ethical

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implications of what they're doing and

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everything and Oppenheimer says how am I

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supposed to do that you know you've had

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me gather the smartest people in the

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world together here and I've had a very

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high-stress situation in the middle of

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nowhere how am I supposed to control

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these guys and general groves says if

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I'm paraphrasing here he says if you

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want to control a man you just cut off

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his options that's it little by little

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and that I believe is a real policy it's

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a real protocol and so basically you

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nobody wants

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public relations nightmare I mean the

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last thing that the United States

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government wants is some some snooze

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story where American citizens most of

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them are probably going to be under the

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age of 30 years old getting tear-gassed

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right you know because they're trying to

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get to the alien truth that's not that's

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not good PR and so in this particular

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case the easiest thing that they could

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do would just be to close down the roads

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just put up a roadblock

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I mean that would do it just that what

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that would end it right there you put up

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I mean there's only only one way to get

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rid of in or out of the whole area so to

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speak and from one from the South one

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from the north so they could do that but

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then that would frustrate people even

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more so I think what you do how do you

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how do you kill a snake right you cut

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its head off so they're going to the

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head of the snake and there are actually

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multiple snakes now because as you said

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I love capitalism and you love

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capitalism and we we understand there

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are a lot of different people in Lincoln

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we're not going to name any names but

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there are a lot of different people who

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have become involved in figuring out how

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to do something with this and I believe

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that somehow or other a lot of those

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people have had an intimidating force

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come in and say well I'm sorry this is

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not going to be approved that's not

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going to be approved and then there's

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probably a carrot somewhere with the

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stick as well I don't know what the

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carrot is but you're absolutely right

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there's no reason people should be going

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out there to do this and again I swear

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nobody's told me to promote this or

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preach this I'd much rather have you

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come and celebrate your interest at the

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show that I do and as a matter of fact

510
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in full disclosure last Saturday I took

511
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100 percent of the money that came in to

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the creepy Vegas show and donated it to

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the Nevada SPCA which is a no-kill

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Animal Shelter and I got on the news

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here and I said this is at least one

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good thing that's come of all this

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attention so there are good things

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happening here but getting a bunch of

519
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:07,230
misguided people out there in the desert

520
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I don't there's no reason to

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there's no way of thinking of it as a

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successful event at this point I do you

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okay let's uh I know you've got a

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00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:22,929
crystal ball you've got one right there

525
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:25,870
you're looking at it as you peer into

526
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that crystal ball how many how many

527
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people do you think are gonna show up

528
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it's not going to be zero I mean how

529
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many people are going to show up at the

530
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alien that are going to fly into Vegas

531
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you know this is the other thing and and

532
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I want you to look into your crystal

533
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ball and come up with the number there I

534
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don't know how many people from Vegas

535
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make that trip up to the black mailbox

536
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right I mean I'm talking about that live

537
00:27:00,419 --> 00:26:57,940
in Vegas right

538
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:00,429
area 51's right there how many people in

539
00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:03,760
Anaheim go to Disneyland you know right

540
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:04,990
now

541
00:27:10,919 --> 00:27:07,809
there's that aspect how many people are

542
00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:10,929
I have bought plane tickets that are

543
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:14,590
going to fly into McCarran rent a car

544
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and drive up to the little alien how

545
00:27:23,010 --> 00:27:20,080
many people have packed their cars and

546
00:27:24,419 --> 00:27:23,020
are prepping to drive out to Vegas and

547
00:27:27,870 --> 00:27:24,429
make their way up the Extra Terrestrial

548
00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:27,880
highway to the little alien I mean

549
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:30,550
realistically speaking here what are we

550
00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:32,710
talking about what what do you think is

551
00:27:37,770 --> 00:27:34,590
gonna happen next Friday

552
00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:37,780
well my prediction is and and again if I

553
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:40,230
probably have a better idea of

554
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:44,170
predicting and than any civilian I mean

555
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:46,000
obviously it would it be helpful to have

556
00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:49,330
access to Big Brother's resources and

557
00:27:56,220 --> 00:27:52,840
and see who's tickets - but but but not

558
00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:56,230
having that just talking to people in

559
00:28:03,380 --> 00:27:59,530
general I think that what's gonna happen

560
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:03,390
is there will be a few hundred people

561
00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:06,850
and I think that it that will still be -

562
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,230
too much for a little Rachel and because

563
00:28:16,830 --> 00:28:13,360
you know Rachel is really set up to

564
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:16,840
accommodate ten people a day you know so

565
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:19,809
having having a few hundred people is is

566
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:22,210
going to put a lot of pressure and

567
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:23,650
stress on them and I'm

568
00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:25,630
we'll be exaggerated by the mainstream

569
00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:29,830
media but I'd be very surprised if it's

570
00:28:39,030 --> 00:28:36,760
more than 3 or 350 people you think CNN

571
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Fox any of the mainstream media is gonna

572
00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:42,450
show up yeah oh yeah they'll show up

573
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:45,070
just because I mean unless something

574
00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:47,170
bigger happens and let you know that

575
00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:49,270
that's that's the whole thing about news

576
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:52,060
and what's newsworthy it's all a matter

577
00:28:58,410 --> 00:28:55,210
of well if it's a slow news day yeah I

578
00:29:00,810 --> 00:28:58,420
mean this will definitely make the news

579
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:00,820
but if it's a busy news day then you

580
00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:02,170
know certain things will take priority

581
00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:05,020
and that's another strategy that can be

582
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:08,620
used I mean you know you work in the

583
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:11,170
media and I do too frankly I've been

584
00:29:16,170 --> 00:29:13,390
self-employed since I was 18 years old

585
00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:16,180
and I am independent and I I basically

586
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:18,760
am in a state in my life where I can say

587
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:21,130
whatever I sink and that nobody can fire

588
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:24,370
me and I'm not in a situation where I

589
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:25,990
can even be censored here on the

590
00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:28,090
internet or anything so I can be honest

591
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:32,350
with you and I can tell you that having

592
00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:36,010
worked in various roles and radio and

593
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:40,180
television movies you name it I believe

594
00:29:46,170 --> 00:29:43,210
that the media in general the mainstream

595
00:29:49,740 --> 00:29:46,180
media has never been more corporately

596
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:49,750
controlled than it is right now and what

597
00:29:53,010 --> 00:29:51,490
does that mean well what that means that

598
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:53,020
a nutshell is that there is a very

599
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:55,450
specific stream of money that comes in

600
00:30:01,470 --> 00:29:59,170
and there are people in positions who

601
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:01,480
come up with an agenda for how that

602
00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:04,090
money is spent and if you don't want a

603
00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:07,630
reporter to go cover something you just

604
00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:10,600
say hey we don't we don't you're not

605
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:12,160
going to get paid if you go do that and

606
00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:15,010
if they do go cover something you might

607
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:17,260
say if you want to appease that reporter

608
00:30:20,370 --> 00:30:18,670
oh yeah yeah this is great

609
00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:20,380
we'll put it on out there and then they

610
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:21,790
put it on their Facebook page or

611
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:23,170
something and they don't actually put it

612
00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:26,710
into big circulation they don't air it

613
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:28,840
etc so there are many levels at which

614
00:30:33,860 --> 00:30:31,360
this this can all be changed and shifted

615
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:33,870
and manipulated and so it's unfortunate

616
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:37,090
to see that the

617
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:42,100
is kind of this bad sorta tone that's

618
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:45,370
being associated with the concept of

619
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:48,270
having this curiosity that we all have

620
00:30:58,020 --> 00:30:53,310
but again you have to understand yes

621
00:31:00,840 --> 00:30:58,030
area 51 is still active and I talked to

622
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:00,850
people all the time who say oh come on

623
00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:04,210
it's too famous now they're not doing

624
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:06,400
any secret stuff there and now it's area

625
00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:08,890
52 you know they're in Utah now or

626
00:31:15,450 --> 00:31:11,620
they're outside of tone upon and I used

627
00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:15,460
to think that also Jim but I now have

628
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:17,590
actually talked to enough people that I

629
00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:21,670
believe that there is still the most

630
00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:25,750
intensive stuff being studied at area 51

631
00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:28,020
the reason is that the government put an

632
00:31:33,270 --> 00:31:30,940
enormous amount of effort in creating

633
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,280
that facility back in the 50s and 60s

634
00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:35,200
when we had a different idea of what

635
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:38,700
quality is mmm-hmm and it's

636
00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:41,610
geographically it's the perfect place to

637
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:45,940
isolate and barricade it'sit's such that

638
00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:47,530
this place and I've never been to area

639
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:50,020
51 but I have talked to enough people I

640
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:52,000
have enough circumstantial evidence to

641
00:32:00,360 --> 00:31:57,610
tell you it is top-notch five-star it's

642
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:00,370
as good as it gets there okay they to

643
00:32:05,850 --> 00:32:03,370
start from scratch and try to build a

644
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:05,860
facility that would do at that place is

645
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:08,080
doing somewhere else especially these

646
00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:09,850
days there's no one thing you couldn't

647
00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:13,390
keep it secret you know and so it is

648
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:15,940
that sensitive it is that sensitive

649
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:19,090
they're doing that work there and it is

650
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:22,750
being protected by any and all means and

651
00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:26,710
a part of that is creating confusion

652
00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:29,320
among people who might want to go there

653
00:32:36,050 --> 00:32:31,560
and snoop around and poke around I

654
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:36,060
couldn't agree with you more that also

655
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:39,010
going back to what you just said when

656
00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:43,270
the facility was first dreamed up right

657
00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:44,950
yeah I said it I said it but when it was

658
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:48,070
first dreamed up the location was picked

659
00:32:55,950 --> 00:32:51,130
for specific reasons but back

660
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:55,960
then it was a simple you know it was an

661
00:33:00,780 --> 00:32:58,330
airstrip it was remote it was difficult

662
00:33:02,490 --> 00:33:00,790
to get to find that was secret we didn't

663
00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:02,500
have spy satellites at the time who

664
00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:05,620
didn't have you know the ability to to

665
00:33:09,860 --> 00:33:07,180
come and snoop around the United States

666
00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:09,870
so that was good enough but what it has

667
00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:14,260
evolved into with above ground below

668
00:33:19,410 --> 00:33:17,140
ground infrastructure and how it is

669
00:33:20,430 --> 00:33:19,420
protected and the investment of it

670
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:20,440
you're right

671
00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:22,720
it cannot be duplicated you can't just

672
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:26,350
go and build that you can't do it and

673
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:30,010
and they have made sure what the land

674
00:33:36,030 --> 00:33:33,130
grabs around there and the perimeter

675
00:33:38,130 --> 00:33:36,040
security that is in place that you're

676
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:38,140
not gonna go there and see anything you

677
00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:39,970
know the back gates and the front gates

678
00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:44,590
are miles away from anything you know

679
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:45,790
that you're gonna go up to the gate and

680
00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:47,170
kind of look through and sees just

681
00:33:52,890 --> 00:33:49,390
something sitting on the runway that's

682
00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:52,900
simply not the case is it well know that

683
00:33:57,930 --> 00:33:55,300
that it's not the case and and also

684
00:34:01,710 --> 00:33:57,940
think about this now one of the cool

685
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:01,720
things about this time and the interest

686
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:04,210
that people have is you know I

687
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:06,730
contributed to this new book called area

688
00:34:13,169 --> 00:34:10,330
51 warning keep out and this was

689
00:34:15,810 --> 00:34:13,179
published by Timothy green Beckley and I

690
00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:15,820
wrote I think a very nice little

691
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:18,760
comprehensive section of this book and

692
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:21,760
the reason I'm bringing this up is not

693
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:24,879
just to plug the book everybody thinks

694
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:28,330
about area 51 and they think oh warning

695
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:30,399
keep out that means these guys are going

696
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:32,290
to shoot you because there's a big sign

697
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:34,570
there this is deadly force authorized

698
00:34:42,110 --> 00:34:39,610
and yet in this book you can read

699
00:34:44,669 --> 00:34:42,120
stories about people who have gone into

700
00:34:47,700 --> 00:34:44,679
area that well have gone past the

701
00:34:50,669 --> 00:34:47,710
boundary and I have never heard of one

702
00:34:53,610 --> 00:34:50,679
person who has been shot and killed what

703
00:34:55,980 --> 00:34:53,620
happens to them is they get you know

704
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:55,990
they get ya roughed up they get

705
00:35:01,140 --> 00:34:58,570
humiliated they get their face shoved in

706
00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:01,150
the dirt and then they get dragged off

707
00:35:05,050 --> 00:35:04,270
to jail but I don't know of anybody

708
00:35:07,420 --> 00:35:05,060
who's

709
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:07,430
we been killed now they could do it if

710
00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:10,880
they wanted to but you think to yourself

711
00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:14,600
if this facility is so top secret why

712
00:35:19,210 --> 00:35:17,000
are they not taking advantage of their

713
00:35:20,740 --> 00:35:19,220
ability to kill people when they cross

714
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:20,750
that boundary well I'll tell you why

715
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:24,260
because when you cross that boundary you

716
00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:27,650
still have another 20 miles that you

717
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:30,950
have to pass through on foot before you

718
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:33,650
even get remotely close to the actual

719
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:36,110
base and I'm talking 20 miles of huge

720
00:35:41,890 --> 00:35:39,230
steep mountains and canyons and rocks

721
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:41,900
and cactuses and rattlesnakes and

722
00:35:47,290 --> 00:35:44,930
scorpions and coyotes and whatever dead

723
00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:47,300
falls they've got put out there with

724
00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:49,640
sensors all over the place with fences

725
00:35:54,670 --> 00:35:52,340
all over the place and I mean like

726
00:35:56,770 --> 00:35:54,680
you're not going even if you go past

727
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,780
that boundary you're not really doing

728
00:36:00,430 --> 00:35:58,640
that much that's why they've never

729
00:36:03,790 --> 00:36:00,440
killed anybody that I'm aware of and

730
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:03,800
then once you if you actually were that

731
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:06,290
dedicated that you would make it through

732
00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:09,110
all that stuff and I know maybe there's

733
00:36:12,250 --> 00:36:10,790
that one crazy person who's going to do

734
00:36:14,830 --> 00:36:12,260
it now that I put the challenge out

735
00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:14,840
there but if you made it there all

736
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:17,870
you're gonna see are maybe some runways

737
00:36:22,690 --> 00:36:20,480
and some big buildings that have huge

738
00:36:24,970 --> 00:36:22,700
locks on them how are you gonna get into

739
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:24,980
those buildings and then if you get into

740
00:36:28,450 --> 00:36:26,810
those buildings if you Houdini yourself

741
00:36:30,430 --> 00:36:28,460
into that building well now you're just

742
00:36:32,830 --> 00:36:30,440
gonna find some elevators and you got to

743
00:36:34,690 --> 00:36:32,840
have a code to get on the elevator to

744
00:36:36,610 --> 00:36:34,700
get underground where the base is so I

745
00:36:37,870 --> 00:36:36,620
mean it's like they know what they're

746
00:36:40,590 --> 00:36:37,880
doing you know these folks are not

747
00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:40,600
stupid and they they built a top-notch

748
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:42,470
facility there and I don't think

749
00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:45,410
anybody's worried about anybody you know

750
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:50,540
storming into it but the question is PR

751
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:53,090
PR that's all this is boiling down to

752
00:36:59,020 --> 00:36:56,090
like how do we handle the PR on this do

753
00:37:04,570 --> 00:36:59,030
you okay we're gonna take a break right

754
00:37:07,590 --> 00:37:04,580
here but is there let's just say okay

755
00:37:12,450 --> 00:37:07,600
let's go to the other extreme let's say

756
00:37:15,790 --> 00:37:12,460
10,000 RVs right like Independence Day

757
00:37:18,299 --> 00:37:15,800
make it up the road and and and get to

758
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:18,309
the back gate right and

759
00:37:23,579 --> 00:37:20,410
you've got five or 10,000 people that

760
00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:23,589
are pushing on the fences do you think

761
00:37:30,359 --> 00:37:26,680
that the United States military in the

762
00:37:35,549 --> 00:37:30,369
air force on United States soil would

763
00:37:37,739 --> 00:37:35,559
shoot at American citizens I well he

764
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:37,749
would not under those circumstances I

765
00:37:41,849 --> 00:37:39,130
think it would it would it would be a

766
00:37:43,289 --> 00:37:41,859
really really extreme terrible situation

767
00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:43,299
but you know what before I tell you what

768
00:37:46,469 --> 00:37:44,739
before you go to the break I want to tee

769
00:37:48,779 --> 00:37:46,479
something real quick sure sure

770
00:37:50,789 --> 00:37:48,789
all right I told you that I have a piece

771
00:37:53,969 --> 00:37:50,799
of video footage that you're gonna want

772
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:53,979
to see and I posted this just for your

773
00:37:58,949 --> 00:37:55,599
show now I'm not gonna give out where it

774
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:58,959
is right now okay okay I got my pan out

775
00:38:03,809 --> 00:38:00,880
I got my pen out I was gonna do it

776
00:38:05,939 --> 00:38:03,819
during the break okay but well okay

777
00:38:07,769 --> 00:38:05,949
we'll do it after the break but continue

778
00:38:09,779 --> 00:38:07,779
this this is gonna change our

779
00:38:11,459 --> 00:38:09,789
conversation I think because it's and I

780
00:38:13,979 --> 00:38:11,469
and the reason I say that is I want

781
00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:13,989
everybody to know we're not just gonna

782
00:38:19,319 --> 00:38:15,849
beat a dead horse talking about like

783
00:38:24,449 --> 00:38:19,329
what may or may not happen at area 51

784
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:24,459
there is a huge uptick in UFO evidence

785
00:38:29,789 --> 00:38:27,249
that's coming in right now that people

786
00:38:32,929 --> 00:38:29,799
are no longer afraid to share and I

787
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:32,939
think that there is a connection between

788
00:38:38,279 --> 00:38:35,920
the publicity that all this is getting

789
00:38:42,029 --> 00:38:38,289
and how it's making people feel

790
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:42,039
comfortable with coming forth and you

791
00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:44,049
know going out and doing some real

792
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:47,380
research and you know if some people

793
00:38:50,759 --> 00:38:49,390
want to go out and have a music fest for

794
00:38:52,739 --> 00:38:50,769
whatever will good luck you know that's

795
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:52,749
a big pain to organize in any case and

796
00:38:57,479 --> 00:38:55,359
you know how the UFO community is in

797
00:38:59,939 --> 00:38:57,489
general there's a lot of a lot of ego

798
00:39:02,339 --> 00:38:59,949
involved in many personalities and you

799
00:39:06,509 --> 00:39:02,349
know everything can get complicated but

800
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:06,519
it but the average person sees this sees

801
00:39:13,739 --> 00:39:10,390
area51 on the news and for that person

802
00:39:17,130 --> 00:39:13,749
it legitimizes the idea of coming

803
00:39:20,189 --> 00:39:17,140
forward and saying well I don't feel

804
00:39:22,049 --> 00:39:20,199
like I'm crazy now here here I if I tell

805
00:39:22,499 --> 00:39:22,059
you this that's right that's the good

806
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:22,509
part

807
00:39:27,449 --> 00:39:25,209
that is the totally fantastic amazing

808
00:39:29,329 --> 00:39:27,459
part and I couldn't agree with you more

809
00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:29,339
let's take a break when we come back

810
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:32,030
Joshua is gonna break something

811
00:39:36,610 --> 00:39:34,610
and I will never forget the show that we

812
00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:36,620
did a couple of years ago when we did

813
00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:38,630
the homeland security footage on this

814
00:39:44,590 --> 00:39:42,020
show and how uncomfortable I was for

815
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:44,600
about a week after seeing that so we'll

816
00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:45,890
do it again tonight

817
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:48,200
Joshua P Warren is here I'm your host

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00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:49,070
Jimmy Church

819
00:39:53,770 --> 00:39:50,690
this is fade to black in the game

820
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:53,780
changer Network can K GRA the planet

821
00:39:56,530 --> 00:39:55,820
I'll be right back more Joshua after

822
00:39:58,410 --> 00:39:56,540
this short break

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stay with us

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00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:17,440
[Music]

825
00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:19,710
welcome back fade to black coming to

826
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church our guest tonight Joshua P Warren

827
00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:26,010
talking about the storm area51 event

828
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:29,790
that'll be going down allegedly next

829
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:32,730
Friday on September 20th and then of

830
00:40:37,940 --> 00:40:34,710
course and Jastrow what does this on

831
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:37,950
every show here we go he's gonna break

832
00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:42,570
some news and catch me by surprise and I

833
00:40:48,140 --> 00:40:44,820
haven't we have to do a full-on

834
00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:48,150
disclaimer right now Joshua which is I

835
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:51,420
have not seen it I have no clue and

836
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:55,050
that's official correct that is official

837
00:41:00,530 --> 00:40:57,690
that is correct I have not sent you any

838
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:00,540
email I have not notified anybody in the

839
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:02,910
world about what I'm about to say is it

840
00:41:15,620 --> 00:41:12,830
yeah it's kind of like picking my

841
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:15,630
favorite child at this point you said

842
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:17,970
the bar you set the bar really high

843
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:21,930
yeah that footage that that is some of

844
00:41:27,830 --> 00:41:25,110
the most comprehensive footage I have

845
00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:27,840
ever seen and that includes the stuff

846
00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:30,060
that I have witnessed personally that

847
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:33,660
that that is that's like the that's like

848
00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:36,450
the Patterson Bigfoot film I mean it's

849
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:38,990
like that right it sees that the bars

850
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:41,570
set really high okay what have we got

851
00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:44,330
well okay well you know it's interesting

852
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:48,900
do you know Jimmy that even though that

853
00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:50,970
footage because you know I lived in

854
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:53,460
Puerto Rico for five years right and I

855
00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:55,530
was there when that puerto rico footage

856
00:42:00,640 --> 00:41:59,160
was shot and i was able to get that

857
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:00,650
thing put it into a nice little

858
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:03,570
documentary on YouTube for free put out

859
00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:06,810
a press release and this day nobody even

860
00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:09,150
really seems to care about it which is

861
00:42:15,140 --> 00:42:12,660
astounding to me and yet everybody talks

862
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:15,150
about this footage from the Nimitz

863
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:17,640
incident right house before right right

864
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:19,590
right right not even not even in the

865
00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:22,170
same ballpark yeah and that's and that's

866
00:42:26,660 --> 00:42:24,540
interesting footage but I don't know why

867
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:26,670
there's been so little attention placed

868
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:30,330
on the the Puerto Rico footage so let me

869
00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:31,200
properly

870
00:42:37,310 --> 00:42:34,680
at the stage for everyone regarding what

871
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:37,320
you're about to see now again let's

872
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:39,450
think about that footage from the nimitz

873
00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:41,970
incident that was 2004 that's the same

874
00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:43,800
year that my team and i made the cover

875
00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:45,900
of the science journal called electric

876
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:48,060
spacecraft think about what you were

877
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,970
doing in 2004 and maybe you can't come

878
00:42:56,450 --> 00:42:53,280
up with anything that's been a while ago

879
00:42:58,670 --> 00:42:56,460
so there's no telling how much has been

880
00:43:04,069 --> 00:42:58,680
filmed since then right right right

881
00:43:08,780 --> 00:43:04,079
right so but everybody talks about the

882
00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:08,790
tic-tac UFO right right which that's a

883
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:10,470
that's an easy reference point we all

884
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:12,570
know what a tic-tac is it's sort of a

885
00:43:19,819 --> 00:43:16,470
white little cigar shaped object except

886
00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:19,829
in this case it was pretty big shooting

887
00:43:29,630 --> 00:43:23,880
around the Pacific Ocean there so bear

888
00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:29,640
that in mind because I have a friend

889
00:43:37,250 --> 00:43:33,480
named Steve Barone and I met him last

890
00:43:39,410 --> 00:43:37,260
year word gets around when you know

891
00:43:42,970 --> 00:43:39,420
other people are are in the UFO field

892
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:42,980
Steve Barone lives here in Las Vegas and

893
00:43:49,609 --> 00:43:46,650
he's retired he was in the Navy at one

894
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:49,619
point as a matter of fact he's retired

895
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:53,220
he lives in a really nice house on the

896
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:57,359
side of the Red Rock Canyon area of Las

897
00:44:01,520 --> 00:43:59,460
Vegas and for those who don't really

898
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:01,530
understand the layout of Las Vegas Las

899
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:06,720
Vegas is a valley and so you know a lot

900
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:07,890
of people especially if you've never

901
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:09,690
been here you know you might think well

902
00:44:14,059 --> 00:44:11,849
Las Vegas is just the strip with all the

903
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:14,069
glitz and the glamor but you drive 30

904
00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:16,290
minutes outside of Las Vegas you have

905
00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:20,030
these big sweeping mountains that are

906
00:44:25,870 --> 00:44:23,339
12,000 feet tall that look like

907
00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:25,880
something from an Ansel Adams photograph

908
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:28,380
that are just breathtaking and so

909
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:30,540
there's a lot of really striking rugged

910
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:32,910
territory all around here so Vegas is

911
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:35,690
kind of like an island in the middle of

912
00:44:42,349 --> 00:44:40,770
the desert yeah you know it's like in

913
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:42,359
Puerto Rico I was on an island in the

914
00:44:49,150 --> 00:44:44,130
middle of water now I'm on an island

915
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:49,160
the middle of Sam sure so Steve Barone

916
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:52,050
he has this house at this house that's

917
00:44:58,010 --> 00:44:53,850
perched right there on the side of the

918
00:45:00,080 --> 00:44:58,020
Red Rock Canyon and he spent his whole

919
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,090
life working in software and all this

920
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:01,920
kind of stuff and never had an interest

921
00:45:07,490 --> 00:45:05,130
in UFOs until he was in his 50s and when

922
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:07,500
he got into his 50s he took a cruise and

923
00:45:13,730 --> 00:45:11,330
back then he was a heavy smoker and so

924
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:13,740
he was on his cruise ship and he went

925
00:45:19,070 --> 00:45:15,330
outside on the balcony to have a

926
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:19,080
cigarette and he had this unbelievable

927
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,180
UFO that kind of flew up to his balcony

928
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:23,040
and shot away and it changed his life

929
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:26,310
and if you asked he Barone to this day

930
00:45:30,590 --> 00:45:28,410
and he doesn't smoke anymore but if but

931
00:45:32,270 --> 00:45:30,600
if you ask him why did you get into UFOs

932
00:45:35,330 --> 00:45:32,280
he said well it starts because I was a

933
00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:35,340
smoker and that's an interesting point

934
00:45:39,620 --> 00:45:36,990
Jimmy because it makes you think how

935
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:39,630
many people see UFOs because they just

936
00:45:44,540 --> 00:45:41,610
step outside to have a cigarette sure

937
00:45:48,350 --> 00:45:44,550
and there have been ufologist who have

938
00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:48,360
actually said that well statistically if

939
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:50,550
you're a man over the age of 40 and

940
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:52,710
you're a schoolteacher and you go

941
00:45:58,460 --> 00:45:54,810
driving by yourself on a Wednesday night

942
00:46:03,080 --> 00:45:58,470
after 10:00 p.m. and Texas you're more

943
00:46:04,310 --> 00:46:03,090
likely to have a UFO encounter and which

944
00:46:05,810 --> 00:46:04,320
I don't know whether or not all that's

945
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,820
true but I mean people have

946
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:07,440
statistically broken that down

947
00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:10,730
apparently and so you but you know now

948
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:12,900
everybody's looking at their phone you

949
00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:15,030
know they're there they're just they're

950
00:46:22,490 --> 00:46:18,060
not even looking up half the time so

951
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:22,500
Steve he would go out in smoke and he

952
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:25,110
saw that UFO and then after that every

953
00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:27,330
time he went out to smoke he was looking

954
00:46:32,570 --> 00:46:29,670
up at the sky and he had a second

955
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,580
experience with a UFO years later and

956
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:34,560
now he's retired all this guy does

957
00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:37,110
almost every night is go out onto this

958
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,340
deck that he has with this sweeping

959
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:42,960
panoramic view of the Las Vegas Valley

960
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:47,040
he has about three cameras and with

961
00:46:53,330 --> 00:46:50,250
different sorts of recording modes and

962
00:46:57,530 --> 00:46:53,340
he just records the sky around here he's

963
00:47:02,060 --> 00:46:59,360
we're one of the brightest cities in the

964
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:02,070
world we have a pyramid outside my

965
00:47:05,630 --> 00:47:03,510
window I'm looking at it right now the

966
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:05,640
giant beam of light shooting up into the

967
00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:06,030
sky

968
00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:07,830
you have helicopters you have planes you

969
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:09,950
have drones you have all this stuff he

970
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:12,210
knows the difference between all those

971
00:47:16,460 --> 00:47:13,970
things my friend Murray the magician

972
00:47:19,310 --> 00:47:16,470
you've probably seen oh yeah Murray's

973
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:19,320
great he's got a show here on the strip

974
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:21,210
Murray and I went to Steve's house

975
00:47:25,490 --> 00:47:23,100
Murray went outside and tried to fool

976
00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:25,500
him you know Murray put up Chinese

977
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:27,180
lanterns and drones and all this stuff

978
00:47:33,740 --> 00:47:30,210
couldn't fool the guy right so anyway so

979
00:47:39,110 --> 00:47:33,750
uh few weeks ago if that it was some

980
00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:39,120
time last month ah Steve was outside on

981
00:47:46,070 --> 00:47:43,080
his deck by himself and he has a lot of

982
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:46,080
interesting footage he even has a

983
00:47:51,470 --> 00:47:48,690
YouTube channel called UFOs over Vegas

984
00:47:54,110 --> 00:47:51,480
where he posts a lot of his stuff and he

985
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,120
always very apologetic about it because

986
00:47:57,950 --> 00:47:55,920
it's really rough and he's not a

987
00:48:00,440 --> 00:47:57,960
filmmaker but he does a good job of just

988
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:00,450
you know putting it out there so Steve

989
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:03,810
was on his his dick and he saw this

990
00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:07,920
light that was sort of across the valley

991
00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:10,020
it looks like it looks like a ball of

992
00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:13,950
light and as he was filming this ball of

993
00:48:22,750 --> 00:48:15,660
light and trying to figure out what it

994
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:22,760
was this thing shot across the screen

995
00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:25,590
now I want you to see this Jimmy this

996
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:27,630
this last one minute this piece of

997
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:29,490
footage so as you go and look at this

998
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:33,210
right now I'll talk about it are you in

999
00:48:39,890 --> 00:48:35,730
front of your computer I am I am mouse

1000
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:39,900
in hand okay I got you all right good so

1001
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:42,720
now you like you said I'm you know I'm a

1002
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:44,610
businessman I'm a capitalist so if you

1003
00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:47,100
go to Joshua P Warren calm there's no

1004
00:48:52,850 --> 00:48:50,520
period after the P you click on the

1005
00:48:56,780 --> 00:48:52,860
little menu setting that says Curiosity

1006
00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:56,790
Shop and which has a lot of very cool

1007
00:49:00,320 --> 00:48:58,110
stuff you're not going to find anywhere

1008
00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:00,330
else in the world I put this stuff kind

1009
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:02,040
of stuff on my curiosity shot from time

1010
00:49:06,140 --> 00:49:03,720
to time to get people to the Curiosity

1011
00:49:08,180 --> 00:49:06,150
Shop right so anyway if you go to Josh

1012
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:08,190
flippy Warren comm go to the Curiosity

1013
00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:10,710
Shop scroll down to the bottom

1014
00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:12,750
I know all the way down got it you

1015
00:49:16,850 --> 00:49:15,000
you're gonna see it's the last thing on

1016
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:16,860
there cuz I just put this on there I

1017
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:18,660
mean I called Steve last night and I

1018
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:20,760
said is it okay I'm gonna go on Jimmy

1019
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,890
church's show tomorrow night is it okay

1020
00:49:26,890 --> 00:49:24,480
for me to put this up and he said

1021
00:49:31,460 --> 00:49:26,900
absolutely you know it would be an honor

1022
00:49:35,810 --> 00:49:31,470
as Jimmy this guy Steve Barone was

1023
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:35,820
shooting this ball of light what I am

1024
00:49:44,330 --> 00:49:40,170
calling the Las Vegas tic-tac goes

1025
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:44,340
zooming across this screen from right to

1026
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:48,540
left and not only and you're gonna see

1027
00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:51,570
it I'm watching it numerous times and

1028
00:49:56,060 --> 00:49:53,790
look at the plume that's coming off the

1029
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:56,070
back of that thing yeah okay yeah yeah

1030
00:50:00,280 --> 00:49:57,330
now you know you're gonna see it

1031
00:50:04,070 --> 00:50:00,290
repeated a few times and then you'll see

1032
00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:04,080
sort of a freeze-frame of it and I

1033
00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:08,460
recently was part of a show here in for

1034
00:50:13,070 --> 00:50:10,830
the Discovery Channel called Rob Riggle

1035
00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:13,080
global investigator Rob Riggle as a

1036
00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:15,630
comedic actor who's been in the hangover

1037
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:17,160
and a bunch of Will Ferrell movies and

1038
00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:19,710
stuff but he also is a retired

1039
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:21,480
lieutenant colonel

1040
00:50:26,900 --> 00:50:24,210
in the Murray in the Marines and I sat

1041
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:26,910
down with Rob Riggle and his producers

1042
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:29,970
and Steve's office and we watched this

1043
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:32,370
and Rob Riggle says I cannot explain as

1044
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,010
a military man I have no ideas because

1045
00:50:38,780 --> 00:50:36,960
it kind of looks like a missile but it's

1046
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:38,790
not creating a sonic boom or anything

1047
00:50:42,770 --> 00:50:41,490
and he goes I this is P said this is one

1048
00:50:45,110 --> 00:50:42,780
of the weirdest things I've ever seen in

1049
00:50:47,540 --> 00:50:45,120
my entire life wow this is pretty cool

1050
00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:47,550
so how would you describe what you're

1051
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:51,660
looking ok ok let me tell you what I

1052
00:50:59,420 --> 00:50:54,090
tried to see I think that's more

1053
00:51:03,800 --> 00:50:59,430
important I was trying to see an

1054
00:51:08,810 --> 00:51:03,810
elongated object created from a streak

1055
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:08,820
of light okay it is not that it is

1056
00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:12,540
clearly not that it looks like well it

1057
00:51:18,260 --> 00:51:14,700
looks like as you've described it first

1058
00:51:21,790 --> 00:51:18,270
off a tic-tac longer though I would say

1059
00:51:24,590 --> 00:51:21,800
you know more cigar shaped illuminated

1060
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:24,600
from front to back it doesn't change

1061
00:51:31,850 --> 00:51:28,500
it doesn't change the length because of

1062
00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:31,860
the the frame rate you would see

1063
00:51:39,590 --> 00:51:36,990
something here that is you would see

1064
00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:39,600
know that it does not it does not change

1065
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:42,180
its shape I am I am freezing it I'm

1066
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:45,210
freezing it it is the same in every

1067
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:50,970
frame and the plume is very interesting

1068
00:51:57,770 --> 00:51:54,480
that is not that's not an artifact that

1069
00:52:01,280 --> 00:51:57,780
is an actual you can describe it as a

1070
00:52:03,950 --> 00:52:01,290
plume it's almost like a a light stream

1071
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:03,960
from the back of it plasma or something

1072
00:52:11,090 --> 00:52:07,530
it doesn't look like smoke yes exactly

1073
00:52:13,820 --> 00:52:11,100
right yeah it looks I am freezing it in

1074
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:13,830
every frame and it is identical I would

1075
00:52:19,550 --> 00:52:16,800
say that this object because this is the

1076
00:52:22,730 --> 00:52:19,560
thing you can see the other objects

1077
00:52:25,550 --> 00:52:22,740
changing in the frame okay the other

1078
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:25,560
stars or whatever the the ball that he

1079
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:28,170
was filming you can see one is a plane

1080
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:31,170
because it's got a flash on it right a

1081
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:36,480
light a strobe but that plume stays in

1082
00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:42,240
the sky it doesn't disappear as II did

1083
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:47,220
he okay I don't want to see what let's

1084
00:52:53,390 --> 00:52:50,250
see here let me get this link up into

1085
00:52:57,020 --> 00:52:53,400
Twitter really quick for everybody or

1086
00:52:59,000 --> 00:52:57,030
does has anybody posted it yet okay hold

1087
00:53:05,380 --> 00:52:59,010
on just give me two seconds so this is

1088
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:05,390
live radio here is the video we are

1089
00:53:12,350 --> 00:53:10,650
talking about right now I type pretty

1090
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:12,360
good huh that's how is that pretty

1091
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:12,930
impressive

1092
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,310
point out a couple of things for one

1093
00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:19,920
thing back when people were talking

1094
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:22,500
about rods and stuff like that I was out

1095
00:53:28,550 --> 00:53:25,410
there saying these are bugs folks okay I

1096
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:28,560
mean I I go out all the time and I and I

1097
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:31,710
film using every setting you can imagine

1098
00:53:38,420 --> 00:53:34,050
Oh dust

1099
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:38,430
insects snow rain fog

1100
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:40,079
I mean I do it all I've been doing that

1101
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,690
I just have always done that because I

1102
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,640
understand the idea of having a control

1103
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:46,319
you know having something like a

1104
00:53:52,220 --> 00:53:49,500
baseline and I knew that rugs were just

1105
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:52,230
insects and some people still don't want

1106
00:53:58,510 --> 00:53:54,780
to believe that but okay fine that's my

1107
00:54:02,630 --> 00:53:58,520
opinion this is not that this is a

1108
00:54:06,290 --> 00:54:02,640
well-defined cylindrical object which

1109
00:54:09,609 --> 00:54:06,300
seems to match the description of the

1110
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:09,619
quote-unquote tic-tac that they gave in

1111
00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:14,010
2004 just as well if not better than how

1112
00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:16,950
they described what happened in to the

1113
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:19,500
Navy pilots in 2004

1114
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:22,950
that's that plume out of the back is is

1115
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:25,890
just unbelievable to me I've never seen

1116
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:27,420
anything like that I mean I'm looking at

1117
00:54:32,030 --> 00:54:29,730
that scientifically and I'm trying to

1118
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:32,040
back engineer that you know and say what

1119
00:54:40,730 --> 00:54:35,490
what is this showing us about how these

1120
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:40,740
things fly and and also like when you

1121
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,530
look at this I I want you to understand

1122
00:54:46,430 --> 00:54:45,839
I know the man who shot this what's his

1123
00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:46,440
name again

1124
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:48,660
or his first name his name is Steve

1125
00:54:57,559 --> 00:54:53,970
Barone be aro and II and he he is such a

1126
00:54:59,539 --> 00:54:57,569
cool guy he actually has debunked some

1127
00:55:02,420 --> 00:54:59,549
of his own videos I mean he that's how

1128
00:55:04,849 --> 00:55:02,430
you know I he shot something one time

1129
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:04,859
that I thought looked pretty amazing and

1130
00:55:09,799 --> 00:55:07,290
then he said no that that was just

1131
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:09,809
headlights and I said what and he

1132
00:55:13,940 --> 00:55:12,240
figured out what it was he has never

1133
00:55:16,579 --> 00:55:13,950
asked for a single penny

1134
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:16,589
he doesn't make any money off of this he

1135
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:19,440
posts his stuff to YouTube and this

1136
00:55:25,370 --> 00:55:22,290
piece in particular the this way what I

1137
00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:25,380
did was I took his footage and I cut it

1138
00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:28,440
into a one-minute clip because what

1139
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,140
happens is a lot of times he wants to be

1140
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:33,119
really detailed so he'll go out and

1141
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:36,089
he'll take like his original clip that

1142
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:39,569
he put up of this was like six minutes

1143
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,280
long because he says well here's all

1144
00:55:45,890 --> 00:55:44,160
here on Google Maps is where I was and

1145
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:45,900
here's where it was and and you know and

1146
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:48,089
he hit me if you want to really geek out

1147
00:55:52,340 --> 00:55:51,150
on this you can do it but I said may I

1148
00:55:55,790 --> 00:55:52,350
please have permission

1149
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:55,800
- take this and edit it and talk about

1150
00:56:02,750 --> 00:55:58,890
this on Jimmy churches fade to black and

1151
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:02,760
he was thrilled thrilled so I have not

1152
00:56:07,790 --> 00:56:05,130
and you know what I have my own podcast

1153
00:56:10,550 --> 00:56:07,800
called Joshua P Warren daily so I try to

1154
00:56:12,890 --> 00:56:10,560
do it every day I did a podcast today I

1155
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:12,900
didn't talk about this because I said

1156
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:17,010
listen I'm saving this okay what did

1157
00:56:27,860 --> 00:56:23,210
what did Steve say that he saw Steve is

1158
00:56:29,930 --> 00:56:27,870
such an investigator that he doesn't

1159
00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:29,940
even want to give an opinion he just

1160
00:56:35,090 --> 00:56:32,700
says I don't know what that is no I mean

1161
00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:35,100
I mean with his naked eye as this was

1162
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:37,260
being shot did he know yet did he see in

1163
00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:39,900
the sky how long did it last had to go

1164
00:56:46,010 --> 00:56:43,500
from Horizon to Horizon what did he say

1165
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:46,020
what was his description he said that

1166
00:56:53,330 --> 00:56:50,490
what he saw in real time right exactly

1167
00:56:55,730 --> 00:56:53,340
like what you're seeing there he again

1168
00:56:57,590 --> 00:56:55,740
he wasn't even focusing on that he was

1169
00:56:58,790 --> 00:56:57,600
focusing on this ball of light and I

1170
00:57:05,570 --> 00:56:58,800
don't know what that ball of light is

1171
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:05,580
the ball of light is pretty cool there

1172
00:57:08,660 --> 00:57:07,110
is what appears to be an airplane in the

1173
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:08,670
background but there is a ball of light

1174
00:57:13,490 --> 00:57:11,130
here that you know then so all he saw

1175
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:13,500
was just something streaked across and

1176
00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:14,910
it wasn't until he watched it again

1177
00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:18,180
later he said what the heck there yeah

1178
00:57:23,810 --> 00:57:22,140
there is this tic-tac he see he called

1179
00:57:26,570 --> 00:57:23,820
it a cigar-shaped object but you know

1180
00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:26,580
cigar-shaped object we've heard that

1181
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:29,400
term over and over sure with this with

1182
00:57:39,470 --> 00:57:33,650
this it's got very clearly defined edges

1183
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:39,480
it was not McCann owes you know like if

1184
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:41,700
this were traveling like a bullet or

1185
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:43,170
something I don't even know if you

1186
00:57:46,550 --> 00:57:44,610
probably wouldn't even capture it but

1187
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:46,560
there wasn't a sonic boom or anything

1188
00:57:53,420 --> 00:57:49,650
associated with it and and you see that

1189
00:57:55,310 --> 00:57:53,430
obvious trail of some kind of a

1190
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:55,320
propellant or you know there's something

1191
00:57:59,630 --> 00:57:57,930
that's very distinctly coming from the

1192
00:58:03,920 --> 00:57:59,640
right side that is driving this thing

1193
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:03,930
forward and I recently Jimmy for the

1194
00:58:07,620 --> 00:58:06,010
first time in my life I've been

1195
00:58:10,290 --> 00:58:07,630
things I've been waiting to get around

1196
00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:10,300
to it I purchased a high-speed camera

1197
00:58:16,140 --> 00:58:13,300
that can film up to 1,000 frames per

1198
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,150
second right on so so so for people who

1199
00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:17,920
are not really familiar with photography

1200
00:58:22,410 --> 00:58:19,840
sometimes it seems a little bit

1201
00:58:27,150 --> 00:58:22,420
counterintuitive but a high-speed camera

1202
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:27,160
actually shoots slow motion so that is

1203
00:58:30,930 --> 00:58:29,170
to say if you film something at a

1204
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:30,940
thousand frames per second it's like

1205
00:58:36,030 --> 00:58:33,010
taking a thousand pictures per second

1206
00:58:40,110 --> 00:58:36,040
and so when you watch it it slows it

1207
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:40,120
down it's the opposite there's no need

1208
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:42,160
to give a that's too much to get into on

1209
00:58:47,790 --> 00:58:44,410
the radio but basically I am now going

1210
00:58:51,630 --> 00:58:47,800
all around Las Vegas and I am using this

1211
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:51,640
high-speed camera to see if these things

1212
00:58:57,420 --> 00:58:53,890
are flying around here all the time or

1213
00:59:00,510 --> 00:58:57,430
if there's a particular highway that

1214
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:00,520
they're flying on in Puerto Rico there

1215
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:04,090
were plenty of people and if you saw um

1216
00:59:09,390 --> 00:59:06,610
I was talking about my little short

1217
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:09,400
documentary about oh you FOS people who

1218
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:12,160
would go out there capture these things

1219
00:59:16,650 --> 00:59:14,560
that were traveling at a super high rate

1220
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:16,660
of speed and if you're lucky you might

1221
00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:19,810
catch it for one or two frames the same

1222
00:59:25,710 --> 00:59:21,790
thing has been happening in Denver I

1223
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:25,720
mean to me when I think about the idea

1224
00:59:31,950 --> 00:59:29,170
that we may have UFOs flying around us

1225
00:59:34,650 --> 00:59:31,960
all the time but they're going so fast

1226
00:59:37,290 --> 00:59:34,660
that we don't even see it I mean for

1227
00:59:39,630 --> 00:59:37,300
example the Voyager spacecraft that we

1228
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:39,640
sent out there is going 10,000 miles per

1229
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:41,650
hour that thing went past you you

1230
00:59:46,620 --> 00:59:44,050
wouldn't even see it it all it reminds

1231
00:59:49,590 --> 00:59:46,630
me of germ theory you know how that for

1232
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:49,600
thousands of years the idea of germs was

1233
00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:51,850
considered ridiculous oh you're telling

1234
00:59:55,740 --> 00:59:53,950
me there's millions of little animals

1235
00:59:56,970 --> 00:59:55,750
all over me and I don't see them yes

1236
01:00:01,500 --> 00:59:56,980
sure yeah all right

1237
01:00:04,830 --> 01:00:01,510
well what if there are tons of these

1238
01:00:07,940 --> 01:00:04,840
things that are flying around us in the

1239
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:07,950
sky all the time but we just haven't a

1240
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:11,050
been looking up enough the ancient

1241
01:00:14,910 --> 01:00:12,910
people did because they didn't have TV

1242
01:00:18,750 --> 01:00:14,920
and cellphones the ancient people looked

1243
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:18,760
up and we also have not been taking

1244
01:00:22,260 --> 01:00:19,510
camera

1245
01:00:24,330 --> 01:00:22,270
that our high-speed and just putting

1246
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:24,340
them up there pointing them at the sky

1247
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:26,650
cuz why would you do that people usually

1248
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:29,230
have a motive for a camera I'm gonna

1249
01:00:33,570 --> 01:00:31,210
point this camera here for a security

1250
01:00:35,580 --> 01:00:33,580
purpose or whatever who's out there just

1251
01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:35,590
putting a high-speed camera up into the

1252
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:38,320
sky just to see what happens well I am

1253
01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:41,680
doing it and isn't it an interesting

1254
01:00:47,490 --> 01:00:45,640
idea Jimmy that maybe you and I say well

1255
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:47,500
this is fascinating to think that there

1256
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:49,450
may be tons of these things flying

1257
01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:53,350
around us all the time but we just

1258
01:01:02,790 --> 01:00:56,200
aren't aware of it now but boy we will

1259
01:01:11,070 --> 01:01:02,800
be soon what the hell is this I have now

1260
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:11,080
watch this yeah 30 40 times yeah I have

1261
01:01:18,330 --> 01:01:15,910
no clue as to what I'm looking at and

1262
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:18,340
for everybody out there I've put up the

1263
01:01:25,170 --> 01:01:21,490
links I'm let me I went back we got to

1264
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:25,180
hit a break here but I went back and was

1265
01:01:33,330 --> 01:01:30,370
looking at the comments here I would say

1266
01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:33,340
that you know this is crazy right now

1267
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:35,470
that's one of the comments they're

1268
01:01:41,010 --> 01:01:39,310
posting some stills from it now let's

1269
01:01:49,290 --> 01:01:41,020
see gotta admit it's a rather

1270
01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:49,300
interesting video let's see here see I

1271
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:51,790
watched this and I cannot debunk it it

1272
01:01:57,810 --> 01:01:56,770
is very interesting yeah this is yeah

1273
01:02:00,510 --> 01:01:57,820
this is crazy

1274
01:02:04,350 --> 01:02:00,520
I want everybody's comments I've got the

1275
01:02:07,770 --> 01:02:04,360
links up there Jimmy it does look like a

1276
01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:07,780
plasma tale can you both speculate what

1277
01:02:14,070 --> 01:02:10,750
plasma does healing clearing etc the

1278
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:14,080
whole object may be plasma I it is gone

1279
01:02:20,490 --> 01:02:17,760
it looks like it's internally lit and

1280
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:20,500
and you know what this there's another

1281
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:22,930
aspect to this that needs to be

1282
01:02:30,380 --> 01:02:25,330
addressed

1283
01:02:34,350 --> 01:02:30,390
which is if it's insect it's not a bird

1284
01:02:37,950 --> 01:02:34,360
if it's insect then we would see some

1285
01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:37,960
type of change in the body as as wings

1286
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:42,160
are doing something this is a very very

1287
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:46,720
very consistent shape so I don't think

1288
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:49,030
it's anything close to the camera it

1289
01:02:56,850 --> 01:02:54,400
looks far away that but I don't Wow Wow

1290
01:03:01,010 --> 01:02:56,860
I don't know man I'm perplexed it may be

1291
01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:01,020
just what you think it is a plasma a

1292
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:03,700
plasma craft shooting across the sky

1293
01:03:10,350 --> 01:03:07,090
without wings anti-gravity with some

1294
01:03:12,270 --> 01:03:10,360
kind of plasma trail coming off the back

1295
01:03:17,609 --> 01:03:12,280
of it it's rounded front and back

1296
01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:17,619
exactly the same and it's that's bizarre

1297
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:20,830
well done well done

1298
01:03:25,859 --> 01:03:23,650
his Steve creeped out and by this I mean

1299
01:03:27,630 --> 01:03:25,869
knowing I mean knowing that you've

1300
01:03:29,550 --> 01:03:27,640
captured it look I've seen some stuff

1301
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:29,560
right and I've captured I've gone back

1302
01:03:34,290 --> 01:03:31,030
and I've always been uncomfortable with

1303
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:34,300
it because I can't identify it right I

1304
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:39,250
don't have that the confidence of you

1305
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:41,710
know answering the question you know and

1306
01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:43,090
that kind of creeps me out a little bit

1307
01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:45,280
you know knowing that this stuff is

1308
01:03:52,050 --> 01:03:48,190
going on is Steve a little creeped out

1309
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:52,060
or is he excited every time I see him he

1310
01:03:57,420 --> 01:03:54,400
has a big smile on his face like I am

1311
01:04:01,080 --> 01:03:57,430
having so much fun right now because he

1312
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:01,090
loves the fact that he can't explain

1313
01:04:05,790 --> 01:04:03,280
this because I'm telling you he's a very

1314
01:04:08,190 --> 01:04:05,800
logical man maybe you'll have him on the

1315
01:04:10,820 --> 01:04:08,200
show at some point but love he yeah he

1316
01:04:14,340 --> 01:04:10,830
just he's just a really straightforward

1317
01:04:17,790 --> 01:04:14,350
reasonable logical down-to-earth guy

1318
01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:17,800
he's not fanciful you know I I'm like

1319
01:04:22,140 --> 01:04:20,080
you in many ways Jimmy I've been out

1320
01:04:24,570 --> 01:04:22,150
there and I've done the conference's and

1321
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:24,580
I've done the events where you meet

1322
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:27,369
people and you meet some folks who have

1323
01:04:32,849 --> 01:04:30,730
some pretty flighty ideas their brains

1324
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:32,859
are sort of all over the place and you

1325
01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:34,690
can tell if you're talking to somebody

1326
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:37,600
whose imagination is a little bit out of

1327
01:04:40,650 --> 01:04:38,770
control

1328
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:40,660
or if they're sort of you know down or

1329
01:04:46,670 --> 01:04:44,770
he is a down-to-earth guy and he I think

1330
01:04:49,410 --> 01:04:46,680
that's why he's smiling because he says

1331
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:49,420
yeah I got something here you know this

1332
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:52,050
is some weird stuff he's capturing wow

1333
01:04:55,470 --> 01:04:54,190
that's incredible we need to take a

1334
01:04:59,130 --> 01:04:55,480
break right here we're gonna continue

1335
01:05:01,230 --> 01:04:59,140
this after the break well this this

1336
01:05:02,820 --> 01:05:01,240
discussions not gonna stop

1337
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,830
that's incredible I'm gonna watch it

1338
01:05:06,570 --> 01:05:04,000
more during the break our guest tonight

1339
01:05:08,850 --> 01:05:06,580
Josh it will be warned the links are up

1340
01:05:12,570 --> 01:05:08,860
for the video the tic-tac in Las Vegas

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01:05:14,550 --> 01:05:12,580
right there at agitators radio hashtag

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01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:14,560
f2b we'll be right back up to the short

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01:05:18,420 --> 01:05:16,450
break stay with us scroll to the bottom

1344
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:18,430
of the page you won't miss it

1345
01:06:08,840 --> 01:05:19,410
we'll be right back

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01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:11,240
welcome back fade to black I am your

1347
01:06:15,830 --> 01:06:12,870
host Amy Church Jaster whoopie Warren

1348
01:06:18,740 --> 01:06:15,840
just broke the news of this new video

1349
01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:18,750
that was shot over Las Vegas and it was

1350
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:22,380
shot on August 10 2009 team by front of

1351
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:26,910
is Steve Barone and you got it all wrong

1352
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:28,650
we've we figured it out

1353
01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:31,410
Joshua are you ready I'm ready it's not

1354
01:06:45,950 --> 01:06:43,020
a tic-tac it's a good and plenty good

1355
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:45,960
money yeah get off the tic-tac bandwagon

1356
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:48,420
we've got to we've got to push the

1357
01:07:03,380 --> 01:06:51,210
envelope here and I'm going good in

1358
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:03,390
plenty but wow what in a white good and

1359
01:07:06,980 --> 01:07:05,490
plenties we're pretty good in fact those

1360
01:07:10,970 --> 01:07:06,990
are my favorite ones I didn't dig the

1361
01:07:15,350 --> 01:07:10,980
pink ones that I am I'm gonna go on the

1362
01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:15,360
record and say that this is this this is

1363
01:07:19,790 --> 01:07:17,280
one of the more incredible pieces of

1364
01:07:24,370 --> 01:07:19,800
footage I've seen the shape is

1365
01:07:28,460 --> 01:07:24,380
consistent the okay a couple of

1366
01:07:31,610 --> 01:07:28,470
technical questions was this a camera

1367
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:31,620
that was set up how was this shot was it

1368
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:34,290
on a tripod is there before-and-after

1369
01:07:40,370 --> 01:07:37,440
footage or is this all we've got right

1370
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:40,380
here oh there is a bunch of

1371
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:44,010
before-and-after footage yeah and what I

1372
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:46,530
did was knowing that we have a short

1373
01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:50,730
attention span I actually gave him well

1374
01:07:55,070 --> 01:07:52,400
I asked him if he would give me

1375
01:07:56,810 --> 01:07:55,080
permission to just sort of take what I

1376
01:07:58,940 --> 01:07:56,820
thought was the most interesting part of

1377
01:08:02,690 --> 01:07:58,950
this and edit it into something that's

1378
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:02,700
no more than a minute so but he see on

1379
01:08:09,170 --> 01:08:05,130
his deck he has all these cameras that

1380
01:08:12,140 --> 01:08:09,180
are set up on tripods and he has various

1381
01:08:15,050 --> 01:08:12,150
versions of of night vision and not

1382
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:15,060
necessarily he well like you know third

1383
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:18,480
generation is is green you know he has

1384
01:08:22,610 --> 01:08:20,490
stuff that I think he calls night vision

1385
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:22,620
but actually it's just got really

1386
01:08:29,630 --> 01:08:27,330
my sensitivity to light but you know

1387
01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:29,640
he's got at least three cameras running

1388
01:08:35,630 --> 01:08:32,990
all the time so this may even be

1389
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:35,640
captured from another point of view that

1390
01:08:39,020 --> 01:08:37,380
would be interesting to see if there's

1391
01:08:41,270 --> 01:08:39,030
any kind of a triangulation they could

1392
01:08:42,710 --> 01:08:41,280
take place and and I don't know how

1393
01:08:45,650 --> 01:08:42,720
technically you want to get here but

1394
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:45,660
what I've done is just presented this to

1395
01:08:50,900 --> 01:08:48,480
you for convenience if usually wants

1396
01:08:52,790 --> 01:08:50,910
like if you want to get into this for

1397
01:08:55,220 --> 01:08:52,800
your listeners you really want to get

1398
01:09:01,970 --> 01:08:55,230
into this here's what you do you go to

1399
01:09:05,420 --> 01:09:01,980
youtube.com and you go to his channel

1400
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:05,430
which is UFOs over Vegas and this

1401
01:09:13,070 --> 01:09:08,480
particular one like the full version is

1402
01:09:17,540 --> 01:09:13,080
cigar style UFO speeds past orb that's

1403
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:17,550
what it's called cigar style UFO speeds

1404
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,570
past orb and it's got I you know again

1405
01:09:27,410 --> 01:09:23,040
it's got a lot of stuff that I would

1406
01:09:29,180 --> 01:09:27,420
consider extraneous and so if you if you

1407
01:09:31,670 --> 01:09:29,190
really want to analyze it though

1408
01:09:33,770 --> 01:09:31,680
that would start there okay I'm looking

1409
01:09:34,340 --> 01:09:33,780
for his YouTube channel I can't find it

1410
01:09:37,730 --> 01:09:34,350
dad

1411
01:09:40,310 --> 01:09:37,740
dang it just type in UFOs over Vegas I

1412
01:09:50,650 --> 01:09:40,320
did YouTube channel it's not coming up

1413
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,280
okay alright somebody in Twitter find

1414
01:10:00,940 --> 01:09:57,360
that YouTube channel for me and pop it

1415
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:00,950
up in Twitter so I can go and do this

1416
01:10:08,270 --> 01:10:06,210
the how many how many subscribers I mean

1417
01:10:12,590 --> 01:10:08,280
I could take this thing into the next

1418
01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:12,600
century as far as with people looking at

1419
01:10:18,620 --> 01:10:15,840
it and if there's more video out there I

1420
01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:18,630
would like permission to do that and yes

1421
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:21,900
take over Tori's six point four thousand

1422
01:10:27,620 --> 01:10:23,850
subscribers yeah well I got a hundred

1423
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:27,630
thousand on mine really yeah what what -

1424
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:29,940
what are you surprised we need to talk a

1425
01:10:35,580 --> 01:10:33,570
little bit about sure yeah I have a

1426
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:35,590
hundred thousand and even in

1427
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:38,650
YouTube's numbers I'm embarrassed by

1428
01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:41,530
saying that you know it's so small in in

1429
01:10:47,550 --> 01:10:45,550
the UFO PR in the YouTube community but

1430
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:47,560
yeah I have a hundred thousand sitting

1431
01:10:51,660 --> 01:10:49,840
over there but we have fifty thousand

1432
01:10:53,660 --> 01:10:51,670
here we have fifty thousand there you

1433
01:10:57,419 --> 01:10:53,670
know whatever different social media

1434
01:10:59,700 --> 01:10:57,429
places you know plus plus Twitter too

1435
01:11:03,030 --> 01:10:59,710
and so there's a way to get this out I

1436
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:03,040
think it needs to be seen and maybe we

1437
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,400
can put together another video and and

1438
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:08,320
get it out there and link everybody up

1439
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:12,070
and and launch this thing because I can

1440
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:13,690
get it out there into the media I think

1441
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:14,800
this needs to be seen this is pretty

1442
01:11:20,490 --> 01:11:18,400
good this is pretty dang tasty well you

1443
01:11:23,580 --> 01:11:20,500
know I'd say it was one of the things

1444
01:11:26,430 --> 01:11:23,590
that I really do admire about you and

1445
01:11:29,070 --> 01:11:26,440
your show is that you are excellent at

1446
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:29,080
what I consider theater of the mind and

1447
01:11:34,890 --> 01:11:32,770
what that means is if somebody's sitting

1448
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:34,900
around and all they're doing is

1449
01:11:40,109 --> 01:11:37,330
listening to our conversation you are

1450
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:40,119
helping them see it you know what I mean

1451
01:11:44,129 --> 01:11:42,010
you're helping them visualize a great

1452
01:11:45,629 --> 01:11:44,139
I'm hearing some audio in the background

1453
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:45,639
all of a sudden you know what what's

1454
01:11:56,459 --> 01:11:52,330
going on hold on it may be hang on yeah

1455
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:56,469
you you may be on another computer okay

1456
01:12:01,500 --> 01:11:59,199
so hold on just just keep talking it's

1457
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:01,510
no big okay it's not the man listening

1458
01:12:09,149 --> 01:12:03,730
so there once was a man from Nantucket

1459
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:09,159
yeah so so anyway but but you know I

1460
01:12:13,470 --> 01:12:10,510
think that's important these days

1461
01:12:16,050 --> 01:12:13,480
because well it's always been important

1462
01:12:21,419 --> 01:12:16,060
but especially now because the idea is

1463
01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:21,429
that you you create a vision and now of

1464
01:12:28,620 --> 01:12:24,159
course you can go to the internet and

1465
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,630
you can actually see on the internet the

1466
01:12:34,169 --> 01:12:30,400
footage now think about it the old days

1467
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:34,179
of traditional radio you didn't have the

1468
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:37,330
ability to say well you can go here now

1469
01:12:42,270 --> 01:12:39,520
and and look at this or that or the

1470
01:12:46,129 --> 01:12:42,280
other and then when it comes to TV shows

1471
01:12:48,930 --> 01:12:46,139
you didn't have the ability to say well

1472
01:12:49,380 --> 01:12:48,940
we can get into long-form discussions

1473
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:49,390
about

1474
01:12:53,850 --> 01:12:51,670
things right but you have perfectly

1475
01:12:59,310 --> 01:12:53,860
nailed the ability to do those too so

1476
01:13:00,930 --> 01:12:59,320
Wow one of the things that I've got

1477
01:13:03,540 --> 01:13:00,940
music in the background right now yeah

1478
01:13:06,990 --> 01:13:03,550
that's Rita sending the links Rita I got

1479
01:13:08,370 --> 01:13:07,000
a I can't these links are popping up

1480
01:13:12,210 --> 01:13:08,380
live okay

1481
01:13:16,050 --> 01:13:12,220
so that's what that's what it is Joshua

1482
01:13:19,620 --> 01:13:16,060
Rita quit posting the links please okay

1483
01:13:21,570 --> 01:13:19,630
thank you did it stop Joshua no it says

1484
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:21,580
it's it's very soothing it's like some

1485
01:13:30,210 --> 01:13:25,840
nice synthesizer music in the background

1486
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:30,220
but hold on for a second okay okay no

1487
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:32,560
that's not coming up on this channel and

1488
01:13:40,830 --> 01:13:34,960
I'm not hearing it on yours so you know

1489
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:40,840
what it's on your end really yeah yeah

1490
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:43,690
yeah I just brought up another channel

1491
01:13:49,170 --> 01:13:45,850
over here okay alright I closed all my

1492
01:13:51,300 --> 01:13:49,180
windows then well I'm sorry I don't get

1493
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:51,310
into technical problems on the air but

1494
01:13:54,420 --> 01:13:52,450
you know when you're when you're looking

1495
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:54,430
at all this stuff on the Internet as you

1496
01:13:59,250 --> 01:13:57,130
as you're having a discussion it's kind

1497
01:14:02,070 --> 01:13:59,260
of weird how you have to sift and sort

1498
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:02,080
through these different types of streams

1499
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:04,510
but anyway yeah well see this is but

1500
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:10,170
back to your point yeah when I go back

1501
01:14:17,780 --> 01:14:13,120
throughout my life I've always been a

1502
01:14:20,430 --> 01:14:17,790
fan of talk radio I love music but

1503
01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:20,440
listening and I'm talking away before

1504
01:14:28,290 --> 01:14:24,430
art bell you know and going back to the

1505
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:28,300
80s here in Los Angeles with the

1506
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:30,970
original open minds radio with Dave

1507
01:14:35,850 --> 01:14:33,520
Jenkins which was just an incredible

1508
01:14:39,810 --> 01:14:35,860
show on Saturday nights here on KABC

1509
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:39,820
radio and that was in the early in mid

1510
01:14:43,380 --> 01:14:41,890
80s and then going back to Indianapolis

1511
01:14:46,710 --> 01:14:43,390
they had a couple of really cool

1512
01:14:51,710 --> 01:14:46,720
conspiracy shows at night but I was able

1513
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:51,720
to get sucked in the theater of the mind

1514
01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:54,850
right and I would just in the you know

1515
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:56,800
in my bed at night and listen and

1516
01:15:01,550 --> 01:14:58,960
thought to myself Joshua I'm not kidding

1517
01:15:05,180 --> 01:15:01,560
about this if I ever get a chance

1518
01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:05,190
I want to be able to do this with an

1519
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:08,280
audience if there's a way to do it and

1520
01:15:12,890 --> 01:15:10,290
that I've never I've never let go of

1521
01:15:17,540 --> 01:15:12,900
those values you know because I love

1522
01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:17,550
those days man back art bell in 1993

1523
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:23,940
that was a game changer man changer 93

1524
01:15:32,060 --> 01:15:28,770
94 95 those those were great great dates

1525
01:15:34,340 --> 01:15:32,070
they haven't gone away but for me that's

1526
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:34,350
that's what was just amazing you know

1527
01:15:39,470 --> 01:15:36,570
and even before that long John Neville

1528
01:15:43,310 --> 01:15:39,480
out of New York you know the party line

1529
01:15:45,500 --> 01:15:43,320
what he was doing in the 50s and 60s was

1530
01:15:48,380 --> 01:15:45,510
just a great theater of the mind great

1531
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:48,390
great radio so thank you for recognizing

1532
01:15:54,020 --> 01:15:51,990
that but that's I just want to I want to

1533
01:15:56,060 --> 01:15:54,030
give back what was the original thing

1534
01:15:57,890 --> 01:15:56,070
for me you know and that's that's it

1535
01:16:00,910 --> 01:15:57,900
that's it go on a journey go on a

1536
01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:00,920
journey and go from beginning to end

1537
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:03,510
so you're saying that with this there's

1538
01:16:09,140 --> 01:16:07,770
six minutes I've got the links now sent

1539
01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:09,150
to me so I'll be able to go and check

1540
01:16:14,170 --> 01:16:11,790
these out but yeah let's set let's do

1541
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,180
something let's get this out there and

1542
01:16:18,230 --> 01:16:16,800
do you want to go tic-tac are we going

1543
01:16:20,570 --> 01:16:18,240
good and plenty that's what I want to

1544
01:16:26,660 --> 01:16:20,580
know talk to Steve to see if Steve wants

1545
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:26,670
to go good in plenty but but you know

1546
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:29,250
that's the thing the tic-tac thing I

1547
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:31,410
guess is just already catching on

1548
01:16:36,650 --> 01:16:34,560
because of the the Nimitz incident but

1549
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:36,660
you know getting back to brass tacks

1550
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:40,050
here I mean what yeah what is this thing

1551
01:16:44,330 --> 01:16:41,520
I mean you were asking me before the

1552
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:44,340
break what is this thing well when I

1553
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:46,770
look at this and I'm replaying it right

1554
01:16:51,140 --> 01:16:49,530
now and I've watched it you can imagine

1555
01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:51,150
I've watched this you know hundreds of

1556
01:17:01,520 --> 01:16:57,120
times if not a thousand it is what I

1557
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:01,530
believe senator Reed was talking about

1558
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:05,730
when he referred to exotic technology

1559
01:17:13,970 --> 01:17:11,610
and in his particular letter he was

1560
01:17:15,410 --> 01:17:13,980
talking about obviously something that

1561
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:15,420
was created by

1562
01:17:22,460 --> 01:17:19,170
another world because he says more or

1563
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:22,470
less you know we didn't we didn't get it

1564
01:17:25,730 --> 01:17:23,760
we discovered it and we don't want

1565
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:25,740
anybody else to have it so okay who does

1566
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:28,320
that leave so it came from somewhere

1567
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:32,640
else but I don't know when I'm looking

1568
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:35,520
at this if this is actual alien

1569
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:38,970
technology or this is something that the

1570
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:42,960
government has created but let's look at

1571
01:17:50,110 --> 01:17:45,930
that logically why would the United

1572
01:17:55,970 --> 01:17:50,120
States government be flung some piece of

1573
01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:55,980
exotic technology over in Las Vegas part

1574
01:18:00,080 --> 01:17:58,170
of Vegas he's over in the Red Rock

1575
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:00,090
Canyon area which is on the west side of

1576
01:18:07,580 --> 01:18:03,450
agus I believe right yeah it's on the

1577
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:07,590
west side he's across the valley uh what

1578
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:11,090
so was it was this over those mountains

1579
01:18:17,900 --> 01:18:13,770
in the Red Rock Canyon or was he

1580
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:17,910
shooting towards Las Vegas it was toward

1581
01:18:21,950 --> 01:18:19,920
Las Vegas okay so this went over the

1582
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:21,960
city yeah Wow

1583
01:18:28,670 --> 01:18:25,110
yeah so why would they do that yeah I

1584
01:18:31,370 --> 01:18:28,680
mean why would I mean and and how do you

1585
01:18:33,890 --> 01:18:31,380
even control something like that to make

1586
01:18:37,250 --> 01:18:33,900
sure it doesn't hit a helicopter or an

1587
01:18:42,380 --> 01:18:37,260
airplane or something and destroy it so

1588
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:42,390
it does not make sense to me that the US

1589
01:18:47,450 --> 01:18:45,210
military would be flying something like

1590
01:18:51,140 --> 01:18:47,460
this and one of the most populated

1591
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:51,150
tourist destinations in the world well

1592
01:18:56,300 --> 01:18:53,970
if they were okay now let's let's play

1593
01:19:01,190 --> 01:18:56,310
devil's advocate here a little bit if

1594
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:01,200
they were the we have the Nellis test

1595
01:19:08,510 --> 01:19:04,320
range you have of course groom Lake and

1596
01:19:11,420 --> 01:19:08,520
area 51 which is a hundred or so miles

1597
01:19:14,270 --> 01:19:11,430
away from Las Vegas if this thing is

1598
01:19:16,820 --> 01:19:14,280
traveling at those kinds of speeds we're

1599
01:19:19,340 --> 01:19:16,830
talking about mere seconds if they're

1600
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:19,350
testing it right out of their area 51

1601
01:19:25,670 --> 01:19:23,370
so it would have to it would fly great

1602
01:19:28,810 --> 01:19:25,680
distances in a very short amount of time

1603
01:19:31,220 --> 01:19:28,820
they couldn't test fly it directly over

1604
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:31,230
area 51 because it would have to make

1605
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:34,410
u-turns every couple of seconds you see

1606
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:36,960
I'm saying so it would it would you know

1607
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:41,250
fly out over Vegas and probably to the

1608
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:44,010
Pacific Ocean and back in a couple of

1609
01:19:50,180 --> 01:19:47,130
minutes at these speeds so I could see

1610
01:19:53,209 --> 01:19:50,190
it flying over vague if they were if

1611
01:19:55,459 --> 01:19:53,219
it's terrestrial if it's our technology

1612
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:55,469
or whatever backwards engineer

1613
01:20:01,280 --> 01:19:57,840
technology flying out a very 51 it being

1614
01:20:04,580 --> 01:20:01,290
tested going over Las Vegas it's only a

1615
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:04,590
few seconds away in that test flight so

1616
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:07,760
now is it et oh it could very well be

1617
01:20:16,729 --> 01:20:11,010
something from off-planet this is crazy

1618
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:16,739
this is crazy it's definitely it seems I

1619
01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:19,050
keep freeze framing it and and looking

1620
01:20:27,140 --> 01:20:24,030
at it it's like is it's illuminated from

1621
01:20:30,290 --> 01:20:27,150
the inside if you know the other strange

1622
01:20:34,610 --> 01:20:30,300
part about whatever this is it's not a

1623
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:34,620
light from the outside of the craft

1624
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:36,719
because then would some of it would be

1625
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:39,510
in shadow you understand what I'm saying

1626
01:20:45,770 --> 01:20:41,130
it's like a light bulb it's being lit

1627
01:20:47,570 --> 01:20:45,780
from the inside yeah well you know you

1628
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:47,580
mentioned that someone had messaged you

1629
01:20:53,959 --> 01:20:51,330
about plasma sure and I have a

1630
01:20:56,870 --> 01:20:53,969
laboratory in Asheville North Carolina I

1631
01:20:58,970 --> 01:20:56,880
have a laboratory here in Las Vegas and

1632
01:21:01,850 --> 01:20:58,980
I deal with plasmas all the time I was

1633
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:01,860
playing around with plasmas today I'm

1634
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:04,770
working on a project that you seems

1635
01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:06,930
completely unrelated to everything that

1636
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:08,070
you know about me

1637
01:21:12,020 --> 01:21:10,320
I'm trying to come up with a reliable

1638
01:21:16,130 --> 01:21:12,030
electronic device that will repel

1639
01:21:19,850 --> 01:21:16,140
mosquitoes and that part of that was

1640
01:21:24,979 --> 01:21:19,860
inspired by my time in Puerto Rico but I

1641
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:24,989
am I'm always looking at a plasmas for

1642
01:21:34,250 --> 01:21:29,040
one reason or another and plasmas are

1643
01:21:37,310 --> 01:21:34,260
the fourth state of matter yeah and so

1644
01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:37,320
what that means is if you have an ice

1645
01:21:44,970 --> 01:21:41,980
cube well that is a solid

1646
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:44,980
meaning that the molecules of water in

1647
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:47,110
that ice cube are sort of in a fixed

1648
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:50,110
position and then you add little energy

1649
01:21:55,110 --> 01:21:52,690
to that in one way or another like heat

1650
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:55,120
and those molecules they spread apart a

1651
01:22:01,530 --> 01:21:56,560
little bit more and they become loose

1652
01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:01,540
and now it's a liquid and then you had a

1653
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:04,450
little more energy to it again maybe in

1654
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:06,730
the form of heat and the molecules

1655
01:22:12,570 --> 01:22:09,670
spread even further apart and now we

1656
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:12,580
have steam which is a gas those are the

1657
01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:15,370
three basic states that matter solid

1658
01:22:22,590 --> 01:22:18,190
liquid and gas but if you take that

1659
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,600
steam and you add even more energy to it

1660
01:22:29,420 --> 01:22:24,400
well then something kind of miraculous

1661
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:29,430
happens at that point you end up with

1662
01:22:36,060 --> 01:22:33,130
actual atoms that are being pulled out

1663
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:36,070
of the molecules and you end up with

1664
01:22:41,940 --> 01:22:38,770
this luminous thing the fourth state of

1665
01:22:44,850 --> 01:22:41,950
matter that we call a plasma now a

1666
01:22:48,030 --> 01:22:44,860
plasma is not as foreign as you might

1667
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:48,040
think a candle flame is a type of plasma

1668
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:51,910
a lightning bolt is a plasma I've been

1669
01:22:56,370 --> 01:22:54,010
told that most of the universe is

1670
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:56,380
actually a plasma we just don't see it

1671
01:23:04,770 --> 01:22:59,920
as much on earth the Sun is certainly a

1672
01:23:08,610 --> 01:23:04,780
big ball of plasma some plasma is sort

1673
01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:08,620
of the most energetic form of matter

1674
01:23:15,210 --> 01:23:11,230
that you and I are able to actually

1675
01:23:18,540 --> 01:23:15,220
perceive and when I look at this this

1676
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:18,550
object it seems to me that at the core

1677
01:23:26,370 --> 01:23:23,440
of it there is something solid there but

1678
01:23:28,700 --> 01:23:26,380
there may very well be a plasma around

1679
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:28,710
it which is propelling it and

1680
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:31,120
controlling it and that would make

1681
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:34,690
perfect sense to me because and I'm

1682
01:23:38,610 --> 01:23:36,610
hoping I'm not you know losing anybody

1683
01:23:44,540 --> 01:23:38,620
here with with getting too technical but

1684
01:23:48,350 --> 01:23:44,550
but basically plasmas are so unstable

1685
01:23:51,660 --> 01:23:48,360
that they're actually easy to control

1686
01:23:55,050 --> 01:23:51,670
because you can very very quickly change

1687
01:23:55,829 --> 01:23:55,060
them you see so if you surround an

1688
01:23:58,139 --> 01:23:55,839
object

1689
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,149
with a plasma and the plasma is

1690
01:24:04,139 --> 01:24:00,639
controlling that object's momentum and

1691
01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:04,149
position and everything well then you

1692
01:24:11,459 --> 01:24:07,030
can make that thing go at unimaginable

1693
01:24:13,169 --> 01:24:11,469
speeds and and make it avoid hitting a

1694
01:24:16,919 --> 01:24:13,179
mountain or an airplane or a helicopter

1695
01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:16,929
or whatever now the big question that

1696
01:24:20,429 --> 01:24:18,729
we've always had is okay well

1697
01:24:23,369 --> 01:24:20,439
technically you can do this but how do

1698
01:24:24,989 --> 01:24:23,379
you withstand the g-forces inside if you

1699
01:24:27,449 --> 01:24:24,999
have a little green man in there who's

1700
01:24:29,339 --> 01:24:27,459
piloting the thing probably Jimmy these

1701
01:24:32,459 --> 01:24:29,349
things are not piloted by a little green

1702
01:24:34,679 --> 01:24:32,469
man that's why my documentary about the

1703
01:24:38,639 --> 01:24:34,689
object in Puerto Rico I called oh u fos

1704
01:24:40,799 --> 01:24:38,649
or Organic UFOs and and and but maybe it

1705
01:24:42,989 --> 01:24:40,809
will be more appropriately called AI

1706
01:24:46,759 --> 01:24:42,999
UFOs these are these are probably

1707
01:24:50,939 --> 01:24:46,769
artificial intelligence controlled

1708
01:24:53,729 --> 01:24:50,949
devices that have parts of them that you

1709
01:24:55,309 --> 01:24:53,739
and I we consider organic and then parts

1710
01:24:59,959 --> 01:24:55,319
of them that you and I would consider

1711
01:25:03,779 --> 01:24:59,969
inorganic and machine like that are

1712
01:25:07,319 --> 01:25:03,789
synergized into a form that doesn't

1713
01:25:10,079 --> 01:25:07,329
neatly fit into our current levels of

1714
01:25:12,929 --> 01:25:10,089
technology and that is why everybody's

1715
01:25:15,569 --> 01:25:12,939
scratching their head because we try to

1716
01:25:18,869 --> 01:25:15,579
think well this is either a an animal or

1717
01:25:21,719 --> 01:25:18,879
a machine this is natural or man-made

1718
01:25:24,299 --> 01:25:21,729
but those are just these ridiculous

1719
01:25:27,599 --> 01:25:24,309
limits that we put on what's possible

1720
01:25:31,020 --> 01:25:27,609
this is a technology that is a hybrid of

1721
01:25:34,859 --> 01:25:31,030
the organic and inorganic and it is an

1722
01:25:38,699 --> 01:25:34,869
intelligent machine that has both

1723
01:25:40,949 --> 01:25:38,709
capabilities and is able to travel with

1724
01:25:45,509 --> 01:25:40,959
some self-contained intelligence but

1725
01:25:49,679 --> 01:25:45,519
also has this plasma aspect to actually

1726
01:25:52,109 --> 01:25:49,689
navigate through our atmosphere I would

1727
01:25:55,909 --> 01:25:52,119
agree with everything that you just said

1728
01:25:59,399 --> 01:25:55,919
because the the possibilities out there

1729
01:26:02,129 --> 01:25:59,409
once you latch on to one specific thing

1730
01:26:03,689 --> 01:26:02,139
Joshua right behind that you have ten

1731
01:26:05,909 --> 01:26:03,699
other things to investigate into

1732
01:26:06,979 --> 01:26:05,919
research and that fact you know it's

1733
01:26:10,930 --> 01:26:06,989
like

1734
01:26:15,620 --> 01:26:10,940
out and you can go into each direction I

1735
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:15,630
the reason why I agree with that is the

1736
01:26:20,570 --> 01:26:17,850
way that we are researching our own

1737
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:20,580
solar system right we're doing the same

1738
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:23,850
thing where we are sending out probes

1739
01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:28,080
okay that we been to the moon well

1740
01:26:33,110 --> 01:26:31,230
allegedly but but that's as that's as

1741
01:26:35,870 --> 01:26:33,120
far as we've got there isn't another

1742
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:35,880
safe way to do it and certainly getting

1743
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:38,010
out of our solar system you brought a

1744
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:40,290
voyage or earlier right well we don't

1745
01:26:47,180 --> 01:26:44,610
have any people on Voyager and you you

1746
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:47,190
would have to put that same mindset into

1747
01:26:53,150 --> 01:26:50,370
anybody else that is out there exploring

1748
01:26:55,850 --> 01:26:53,160
the Milky Way or the universe they're

1749
01:26:57,979 --> 01:26:55,860
looking at billions of planets just like

1750
01:27:00,170 --> 01:26:57,989
we are right we're trying to find

1751
01:27:02,740 --> 01:27:00,180
exoplanets and we find them every single

1752
01:27:05,330 --> 01:27:02,750
day the list is really long and then

1753
01:27:07,490 --> 01:27:05,340
excited about maybe getting to Alpha

1754
01:27:08,690 --> 01:27:07,500
Centauri one day it's only four and a

1755
01:27:11,420 --> 01:27:08,700
half light-years away but it's

1756
01:27:15,229 --> 01:27:11,430
impossible for us to get to when we do

1757
01:27:18,830 --> 01:27:15,239
get to Alpha Centauri the first time are

1758
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:18,840
you gonna be on that ship no right it's

1759
01:27:24,440 --> 01:27:21,690
gonna be the opposite and or we're gonna

1760
01:27:28,090 --> 01:27:24,450
have some type of Android on that ship

1761
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:28,100
maybe something biological mechanical

1762
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:31,890
combination of things but it would be

1763
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:36,210
impossible to at this point have a human

1764
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,489
on that ship and that's the way that

1765
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:40,320
they are investigating this planet and

1766
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,480
it's not just one et species there's

1767
01:27:49,190 --> 01:27:46,800
thousands if not millions of them out

1768
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:49,200
there that are aware of planet Earth and

1769
01:27:53,300 --> 01:27:51,210
they've known about us for a long time

1770
01:27:57,410 --> 01:27:53,310
we're you know what I'm saying

1771
01:28:00,440 --> 01:27:57,420
we we've got a list now of 9000

1772
01:28:02,630 --> 01:28:00,450
exoplanets four or five thousand of MOFA

1773
01:28:04,459 --> 01:28:02,640
surely catalogued another four or five

1774
01:28:06,290 --> 01:28:04,469
thousand that have been identified that

1775
01:28:07,850 --> 01:28:06,300
haven't been named yet and added to the

1776
01:28:10,130 --> 01:28:07,860
catalog but the number right now is

1777
01:28:12,620 --> 01:28:10,140
about ten thousand and we've only been

1778
01:28:17,090 --> 01:28:12,630
able to do it for about twenty years 10

1779
01:28:18,860 --> 01:28:17,100
years 15 years what what is our catalog

1780
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:18,870
list going to be like in ten thousand

1781
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:20,730
years

1782
01:28:28,860 --> 01:28:24,570
well right and it's the same thing for

1783
01:28:31,260 --> 01:28:28,870
et yeah they're they've all out there

1784
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:31,270
know about planet Earth and they've been

1785
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:33,130
sending stuff here for a very long time

1786
01:28:38,190 --> 01:28:35,170
and they're doing it right now you and I

1787
01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:38,200
are speaking right now we're live on the

1788
01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:40,450
radio Steve is out in his backyard

1789
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:43,150
filming something as we talk because

1790
01:28:48,810 --> 01:28:46,810
it's going on right now well you know

1791
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:48,820
that that's the thing and that's one of

1792
01:28:54,930 --> 01:28:50,290
the great things about this particular

1793
01:28:58,890 --> 01:28:54,940
program because I like you I know a lot

1794
01:29:03,900 --> 01:28:58,900
of people and I know a lot of men and

1795
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:03,910
women who have PhDs and really good jobs

1796
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:06,610
and they are in high positions and they

1797
01:29:11,730 --> 01:29:09,250
love to sit around and have a beer and

1798
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:11,740
talk about this stuff but there ain't no

1799
01:29:16,230 --> 01:29:13,600
way in heck they're gonna come on the

1800
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:16,240
Jimmy Church show or Joshua P Warren

1801
01:29:20,490 --> 01:29:18,250
daily or whatever and talk about this

1802
01:29:22,850 --> 01:29:20,500
right so there there's only uh

1803
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:22,860
there's only a handful of us who

1804
01:29:31,650 --> 01:29:27,520
actually are able to I guess imagine

1805
01:29:37,850 --> 01:29:31,660
what could be going on and discuss it

1806
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:37,860
openly and freely in a controversial

1807
01:29:46,620 --> 01:29:42,130
environment and so that is why I think

1808
01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:46,630
to myself sometimes I don't know I don't

1809
01:29:51,390 --> 01:29:49,510
know exactly what the meaning of life is

1810
01:29:52,890 --> 01:29:51,400
I mean I can give you opinions on that

1811
01:29:56,850 --> 01:29:52,900
all day long and I'm sure you can give

1812
01:29:59,550 --> 01:29:56,860
me opinions but I am just really curious

1813
01:30:01,110 --> 01:29:59,560
and I'm not afraid to talk about these

1814
01:30:02,940 --> 01:30:01,120
things and you're the same type of

1815
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:02,950
person and it's great that everybody

1816
01:30:09,660 --> 01:30:07,090
listens to fade to black because you can

1817
01:30:12,180 --> 01:30:09,670
hear these intelligent conversations and

1818
01:30:15,090 --> 01:30:12,190
I get interviewed by a lot of people all

1819
01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:15,100
the time you know that and I never have

1820
01:30:21,690 --> 01:30:19,060
conversations that are this directly

1821
01:30:24,510 --> 01:30:21,700
sort of you know fundamentally connected

1822
01:30:26,370 --> 01:30:24,520
to what may be happening as the ones

1823
01:30:28,260 --> 01:30:26,380
that you and I have so you're doing a

1824
01:30:29,580 --> 01:30:28,270
great service my friend yeah thank you

1825
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:29,590
so much for that and stay right there

1826
01:30:34,140 --> 01:30:32,290
Joshua let's let's pay the bills and

1827
01:30:36,380 --> 01:30:34,150
we'll do that for a couple of minutes

1828
01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:36,390
I guess tonight Joshua P Warren

1829
01:30:43,410 --> 01:30:40,030
discussing the storm area51 event and

1830
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:43,420
then of course he broke another amazing

1831
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:46,570
video on the show with us the links are

1832
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:48,880
up we'll continue this discussion right

1833
01:31:01,600 --> 01:30:50,410
after this short break stay with us

1834
01:31:05,420 --> 01:31:04,040
all right welcome back fade to black our

1835
01:31:10,010 --> 01:31:05,430
guest tonight Joshua will be warned what

1836
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:10,020
a great show tonight I knew I knew

1837
01:31:13,670 --> 01:31:11,760
Joshua's gonna do this to me once again

1838
01:31:15,890 --> 01:31:13,680
and and I'm trying to maintain

1839
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:15,900
objectivity here I'm trying not to lose

1840
01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:18,090
my mind but that is a really great video

1841
01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:21,510
I went down Joshua to read a studio down

1842
01:31:29,210 --> 01:31:26,490
the hall and she reminded me that back

1843
01:31:31,780 --> 01:31:29,220
in Joshua Tree contact in the desert

1844
01:31:37,970 --> 01:31:31,790
many many years ago when I was

1845
01:31:41,390 --> 01:31:37,980
broadcasting inside that outside her and

1846
01:31:46,190 --> 01:31:41,400
a group of friends had seen an object

1847
01:31:49,250 --> 01:31:46,200
just like this in the sky zipping around

1848
01:31:52,130 --> 01:31:49,260
I have not and I remember them telling

1849
01:31:54,440 --> 01:31:52,140
me about it now she just reminded me I

1850
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:54,450
know Karen was there Nancy was there I'm

1851
01:31:57,910 --> 01:31:55,890
sure they'll start talking about it here

1852
01:32:02,420 --> 01:31:57,920
and Twitter now that I brought it up but

1853
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:02,430
I have not seen as cigar-shaped craft

1854
01:32:09,380 --> 01:32:04,110
I've seen everything else

1855
01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:09,390
have I've heard descriptions over the

1856
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:11,310
years I've seen videos I've seen

1857
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:13,290
photographs I've seen it but I myself

1858
01:32:18,650 --> 01:32:16,170
personally I have not seen one yet and

1859
01:32:20,870 --> 01:32:18,660
and I can't wait for that day this is

1860
01:32:23,570 --> 01:32:20,880
this pretty a pretty incredible video

1861
01:32:25,610 --> 01:32:23,580
and I did go to the YouTube channel and

1862
01:32:28,670 --> 01:32:25,620
watch the full thing and he is

1863
01:32:32,140 --> 01:32:28,680
definitely following this orb going

1864
01:32:34,490 --> 01:32:32,150
across the sky that's the object of of

1865
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:34,500
the video that he was shooting and then

1866
01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:35,850
boom here it comes

1867
01:32:39,740 --> 01:32:38,490
and it just zips right across it's

1868
01:32:42,890 --> 01:32:39,750
pretty incredible it's pretty incredible

1869
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:42,900
there's a lot of things that are very

1870
01:32:50,300 --> 01:32:45,810
difficult to explain in this shot does

1871
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:50,310
he have any idea you know I would like

1872
01:32:55,130 --> 01:32:52,290
to get Steve on the show I'm sure we

1873
01:33:01,520 --> 01:32:55,140
will now at this point does he have any

1874
01:33:03,530 --> 01:33:01,530
idea of altitude and size or it was

1875
01:33:05,990 --> 01:33:03,540
everything just revealed to him in the

1876
01:33:07,630 --> 01:33:06,000
video and he wasn't standing you know

1877
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:07,640
next to the camera

1878
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:10,110
you know that's that's the thing about

1879
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:13,010
about Steve

1880
01:33:18,990 --> 01:33:15,050
anybody who's doing this kind of

1881
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:19,000
research who is is truly objective

1882
01:33:27,700 --> 01:33:22,970
cannot honestly estimate any of those

1883
01:33:31,330 --> 01:33:27,710
variables because you know something

1884
01:33:34,690 --> 01:33:31,340
looks big when it's close to you even if

1885
01:33:38,410 --> 01:33:34,700
it's small and then something that's

1886
01:33:40,660 --> 01:33:38,420
that's excuse me as something small

1887
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:40,670
looks big to you when it's close to you

1888
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:43,610
and then vice versa right so I mean like

1889
01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:46,130
these are there's too much subjectivity

1890
01:33:53,050 --> 01:33:48,800
here involved in trying to figure out

1891
01:33:56,260 --> 01:33:53,060
now he does use landmarks and trees and

1892
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:56,270
so I'm not sure about you know all the

1893
01:34:00,580 --> 01:33:57,170
particulars

1894
01:34:03,430 --> 01:34:00,590
I did he has but you know it's it really

1895
01:34:05,170 --> 01:34:03,440
boils down to perspective so that's why

1896
01:34:07,450 --> 01:34:05,180
when you're analyzing photographs you

1897
01:34:09,130 --> 01:34:07,460
say okay I have a mosquito and it's

1898
01:34:11,290 --> 01:34:09,140
close to the camera so it looks like a

1899
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:11,300
giant you know Godzilla monster or

1900
01:34:17,260 --> 01:34:13,730
whatever or I can have something that's

1901
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:17,270
huge that's far away and it looks like a

1902
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:19,760
little tiny mosquito but you'd if you

1903
01:34:25,990 --> 01:34:23,450
don't have the information from a second

1904
01:34:27,729 --> 01:34:26,000
or third or wouldn't it be wonderful to

1905
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:27,739
have a fourth point of view you just

1906
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:32,330
don't have way of of looking at all

1907
01:34:37,270 --> 01:34:34,610
those different variables and figuring

1908
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:37,280
out by comparing what the size of the

1909
01:34:41,740 --> 01:34:39,290
thing is or how high it is or whatever

1910
01:34:44,740 --> 01:34:41,750
and people they throw out guesses all

1911
01:34:47,830 --> 01:34:44,750
the time but you know in this particular

1912
01:34:50,020 --> 01:34:47,840
case though I mean what you have to

1913
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:50,030
really think about most of all is that

1914
01:34:56,260 --> 01:34:52,370
yeah let's go back to the cigar shaped

1915
01:34:59,220 --> 01:34:56,270
object idea now I'm sure you met Jim

1916
01:35:00,490 --> 01:34:59,230
Marrs right sure many many many times

1917
01:35:02,410 --> 01:35:00,500
yeah

1918
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:02,420
so Jim was a really good friend of mine

1919
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:05,450
and the kind of guy like he slept on my

1920
01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:07,489
couch and I slept on his couch I mean we

1921
01:35:13,150 --> 01:35:10,450
we were we were that level of friend and

1922
01:35:16,690 --> 01:35:13,160
so you know he passed away a few years

1923
01:35:20,470 --> 01:35:16,700
ago and that was a very very sad loss

1924
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:20,480
for all of us but the last time I saw

1925
01:35:27,070 --> 01:35:24,530
Jim that was at his house which is

1926
01:35:30,010 --> 01:35:27,080
outside was outside of

1927
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:30,020
allas Texas and we took a trip over to

1928
01:35:37,810 --> 01:35:35,450
Aurora Texas which is barely even a town

1929
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:37,820
you know it's one of those things kind

1930
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:40,010
of like Rachel you know Rachel Nevada

1931
01:35:48,820 --> 01:35:43,850
and there's a cemetery where they have a

1932
01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:48,830
grave and supposedly there is an alien

1933
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:54,560
in this grave and the alien crashed in I

1934
01:35:59,890 --> 01:35:57,650
think it was like 1897 or something live

1935
01:36:04,600 --> 01:35:59,900
trap Detroit that's right yeah in a

1936
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:04,610
cigar-shaped craft and I mean I was

1937
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:07,730
there with Jim at the site we're all

1938
01:36:11,710 --> 01:36:09,890
done we drove all around he's like well

1939
01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:11,720
supposedly hit here and that happened

1940
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:13,280
there and they say this little guys down

1941
01:36:20,980 --> 01:36:17,090
here and we do and then he took me to

1942
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:20,990
his his personal library and study which

1943
01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:23,600
was very nice and he started pulling out

1944
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:26,450
files and showing me he actually gave me

1945
01:36:34,540 --> 01:36:29,330
copies of some of the files about this

1946
01:36:36,190 --> 01:36:34,550
incident which I have in in my well I

1947
01:36:39,010 --> 01:36:36,200
have some of them on display at my

1948
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:39,020
museum the Asheville mystery Museum in

1949
01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:41,290
Asheville North Carolina haunted

1950
01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:44,480
Asheville calm so anyway the reason I'm

1951
01:36:54,220 --> 01:36:48,110
bringing this up is a lot of people say

1952
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:54,230
well humans always interpret things

1953
01:36:59,260 --> 01:36:57,050
according to what they understand and

1954
01:37:01,930 --> 01:36:59,270
what they're aware of and that will

1955
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:01,940
certainly that's fundamentally true you

1956
01:37:06,910 --> 01:37:05,210
know it goes back Jim also said you know

1957
01:37:08,500 --> 01:37:06,920
you see a little green man run through

1958
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:08,510
the room one person says there's a

1959
01:37:13,060 --> 01:37:10,970
leprechaun another person says there's a

1960
01:37:16,930 --> 01:37:13,070
demon one guy says there's an alien

1961
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:16,940
right so you you can understand why

1962
01:37:24,070 --> 01:37:19,730
people would interpret certain shapes a

1963
01:37:28,390 --> 01:37:24,080
certain way based upon a technology that

1964
01:37:31,570 --> 01:37:28,400
may come to mind but in 1897 there was

1965
01:37:33,970 --> 01:37:31,580
nothing like a cigar shaped thing flying

1966
01:37:35,770 --> 01:37:33,980
around at all I mean the best you might

1967
01:37:40,580 --> 01:37:35,780
be able to come up with was a balloon

1968
01:37:43,310 --> 01:37:40,590
right and yet those people in Texas

1969
01:37:46,460 --> 01:37:43,320
they said they had this cigar shaped

1970
01:37:48,980 --> 01:37:46,470
thing and and this is this is a trend

1971
01:37:51,230 --> 01:37:48,990
and now now you think of it you know

1972
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:51,240
it's it's a bit misleading Jimmy because

1973
01:37:56,630 --> 01:37:54,450
when you use that word cigar it makes

1974
01:37:58,490 --> 01:37:56,640
you think well this is like a cylinder

1975
01:38:02,090 --> 01:37:58,500
basically you know this is basically

1976
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:02,100
like a cigar tube but no that's just how

1977
01:38:07,940 --> 01:38:05,040
it looks from your point of view that

1978
01:38:11,210 --> 01:38:07,950
thing could be some kind of a disc and

1979
01:38:13,940 --> 01:38:11,220
it just is it'll-it'll from your point

1980
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:13,950
of view it looks like well it's two

1981
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:16,290
dimensional so it kind of looks a little

1982
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:18,000
bit like a cigar

1983
01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:20,010
that's why it'd be nice to have two or

1984
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,840
three different points of view and you

1985
01:38:28,820 --> 01:38:23,760
might see although this thing is rounded

1986
01:38:30,500 --> 01:38:28,830
but why would anybody in the 1800's talk

1987
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:30,510
about a cigar shaped why don't we have

1988
01:38:34,310 --> 01:38:32,130
paintings that go back to the Middle

1989
01:38:37,250 --> 01:38:34,320
Ages that show this quote-unquote

1990
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:37,260
cigar shape well it's a very very

1991
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:39,930
efficient shape and you know I don't

1992
01:38:43,310 --> 01:38:42,000
want to be crass here but I mean if

1993
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:43,320
you're gonna put something in your body

1994
01:38:48,770 --> 01:38:46,050
you know a pill or or suppository or

1995
01:38:51,650 --> 01:38:48,780
whatever what's the shape that we use we

1996
01:38:53,570 --> 01:38:51,660
we like that shape so it's possible it's

1997
01:39:00,650 --> 01:38:53,580
just a very efficient shape to move from

1998
01:39:02,510 --> 01:39:00,660
the atmosphere as well the I want to go

1999
01:39:09,530 --> 01:39:02,520
back well we're staying on this

2000
01:39:14,060 --> 01:39:09,540
conversation but going back to the storm

2001
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:14,070
area51 event and the the disclosure like

2002
01:39:19,070 --> 01:39:16,560
videos like this like there's this show

2003
01:39:24,110 --> 01:39:19,080
and and the work that you're doing the

2004
01:39:27,500 --> 01:39:24,120
awareness of has elevated throughout pop

2005
01:39:30,440 --> 01:39:27,510
culture and and the status quo and the

2006
01:39:35,930 --> 01:39:30,450
fact that three million people responded

2007
01:39:39,500 --> 01:39:35,940
to an area 51 meme page like they did

2008
01:39:43,940 --> 01:39:39,510
says to me that there are a lot of

2009
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:43,950
people that know about area 51 in the

2010
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:45,930
UFO phenomena that are not part of this

2011
01:39:51,770 --> 01:39:49,530
community right and and videos like this

2012
01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:51,780
and what is going on right now in

2013
01:39:57,530 --> 01:39:54,460
society are you surprised about

2014
01:40:00,990 --> 01:39:57,540
that where it was such a taboo subject

2015
01:40:05,550 --> 01:40:01,000
not that long ago Joshua you what you've

2016
01:40:07,170 --> 01:40:05,560
gone through every side of UFO community

2017
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:07,180
over the years you know what I'm talking

2018
01:40:13,110 --> 01:40:10,690
about here are you surprised about the

2019
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:13,120
level of awareness that is that is going

2020
01:40:23,970 --> 01:40:17,110
on today well you know it's funny

2021
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:23,980
because I am turning down more projects

2022
01:40:30,690 --> 01:40:27,760
that I'm accepting right now especially

2023
01:40:32,910 --> 01:40:30,700
for it for TV and you know over the

2024
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:32,920
years I've been on every network you can

2025
01:40:40,500 --> 01:40:38,170
think of and I I sit down and I have

2026
01:40:43,260 --> 01:40:40,510
these discussions I am in New York or LA

2027
01:40:45,660 --> 01:40:43,270
or Washington DC or whatever and I sit

2028
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:45,670
down with these network executives and

2029
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:48,010
these production companies and they say

2030
01:40:54,300 --> 01:40:51,370
to me just about every year paranormal

2031
01:40:56,310 --> 01:40:54,310
is dead that's a cycle man that's that's

2032
01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:56,320
burning out you know it's a burn they're

2033
01:41:03,870 --> 01:40:59,920
always into trends and cycles and but

2034
01:41:05,820 --> 01:41:03,880
the opposite is happening and they keep

2035
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:05,830
buying more and more and now it's gotten

2036
01:41:11,250 --> 01:41:07,210
to the point where some of these

2037
01:41:13,110 --> 01:41:11,260
channels are just basically paranormal

2038
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:13,120
channels you know I don't want to name

2039
01:41:16,530 --> 01:41:14,800
any names here but I think you know what

2040
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:16,540
I'm talking about I do some of these

2041
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:18,850
channels you're like this is they call

2042
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:21,370
it this but it's just nothing but

2043
01:41:26,340 --> 01:41:23,410
paranormalist like 90% of this is

2044
01:41:32,490 --> 01:41:26,350
paranormal stuff and here's what that

2045
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:32,500
says to me it says that we are on the

2046
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:35,920
right track and this is true you see

2047
01:41:43,500 --> 01:41:37,930
that these things we've been talking

2048
01:41:44,940 --> 01:41:43,510
about ghosts UFOs psychic phenomena all

2049
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:44,950
of that is true

2050
01:41:50,459 --> 01:41:48,730
I'm not a big fan of cryptozoology to be

2051
01:41:53,010 --> 01:41:50,469
honest with you that's a whole different

2052
01:41:57,690 --> 01:41:53,020
conversation for another time but but

2053
01:42:00,270 --> 01:41:57,700
when it comes to UFOs aliens ghosts

2054
01:42:04,190 --> 01:42:00,280
psychic phenomena all that stuff is real

2055
01:42:07,380 --> 01:42:04,200
and every year we have more and more

2056
01:42:08,129 --> 01:42:07,390
technology coming out that's accessible

2057
01:42:12,839 --> 01:42:08,139
to more and more

2058
01:42:16,020 --> 01:42:12,849
people we have cameras everywhere and so

2059
01:42:20,639 --> 01:42:16,030
the reason that this stuff is staying

2060
01:42:22,889 --> 01:42:20,649
popular is because it's real and we are

2061
01:42:26,370 --> 01:42:22,899
now capturing it on a level you know

2062
01:42:29,549 --> 01:42:26,380
back in the day well this guy Joshua

2063
01:42:31,919 --> 01:42:29,559
here he's one of those strange dudes who

2064
01:42:35,310 --> 01:42:31,929
has all this equipment and he goes out

2065
01:42:38,459 --> 01:42:35,320
and looks for this stuff now everybody

2066
01:42:41,250 --> 01:42:38,469
can do it cheaply and it just keeps

2067
01:42:43,409 --> 01:42:41,260
getting bigger so if this were not true

2068
01:42:46,649 --> 01:42:43,419
if what you and I are interested in were

2069
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:46,659
not true this would have fizzled out it

2070
01:42:50,759 --> 01:42:48,610
would have been the opposite reaction

2071
01:42:53,489 --> 01:42:50,769
it would have fulfilled what these guys

2072
01:42:56,339 --> 01:42:53,499
keep saying year after year all this is

2073
01:42:59,429 --> 01:42:56,349
that trends over that trend but Noah

2074
01:43:02,429 --> 01:42:59,439
gets bigger and bigger because it's this

2075
01:43:06,509 --> 01:43:02,439
is Troost it's this is how reality works

2076
01:43:10,469 --> 01:43:06,519
and yet we are so darned egotistical

2077
01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:10,479
Jimmy we're so darned egotistical that

2078
01:43:17,549 --> 01:43:13,119
we have actually had the nerve as a

2079
01:43:20,850 --> 01:43:17,559
society to say well we kind of know

2080
01:43:24,209 --> 01:43:20,860
everything don't we we kind of know

2081
01:43:29,580 --> 01:43:24,219
what's going on here uh what are you

2082
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:29,590
kidding me that's right isn't it great

2083
01:43:35,429 --> 01:43:33,010
that like we we right now can feel like

2084
01:43:38,759 --> 01:43:35,439
oh yes we're really special because we

2085
01:43:40,290 --> 01:43:38,769
were curious now how sad is that that

2086
01:43:44,909 --> 01:43:40,300
you get a pat on the back for being

2087
01:43:46,859 --> 01:43:44,919
curious and so at the end of the day and

2088
01:43:49,620 --> 01:43:46,869
again you see you can see I can ramble

2089
01:43:54,299 --> 01:43:49,630
on about this one but basically I feel

2090
01:43:56,659 --> 01:43:54,309
like look this is this is true there are

2091
01:44:01,639 --> 01:43:56,669
real people who do real research

2092
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:01,649
understand this and it is surprising to

2093
01:44:10,979 --> 01:44:06,249
see what's happening just because it

2094
01:44:12,959 --> 01:44:10,989
hasn't happened until now right but this

2095
01:44:17,250 --> 01:44:12,969
is gonna be like nothing in a hundred

2096
01:44:20,910 --> 01:44:17,260
years well see this is this is the part

2097
01:44:23,250 --> 01:44:20,920
that where I go hardcore

2098
01:44:28,050 --> 01:44:23,260
pragmatic and black-and-white all right

2099
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:28,060
I love this country the one barometer

2100
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:32,489
that you have that is a guarantee is

2101
01:44:40,020 --> 01:44:36,610
advertising where are the corporation's

2102
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:40,030
putting their advertising dollars what

2103
01:44:45,570 --> 01:44:43,810
are people interested in viewing because

2104
01:44:49,740 --> 01:44:45,580
that's where they're gonna put their

2105
01:44:52,770 --> 01:44:49,750
advertising dollars and right now it's

2106
01:44:56,250 --> 01:44:52,780
UFO programming it's it's paranormal

2107
01:45:00,240 --> 01:44:56,260
programming and the interest there is

2108
01:45:03,060 --> 01:45:00,250
genuine so when those dudes and dudettes

2109
01:45:05,580 --> 01:45:03,070
sitting in a boardroom with their

2110
01:45:07,530 --> 01:45:05,590
advertising partners and they're

2111
01:45:09,930 --> 01:45:07,540
discussing where they're gonna you know

2112
01:45:12,419 --> 01:45:09,940
spend their money and the marketing

2113
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:12,429
dollars and get the best return on

2114
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:16,690
investment that's the gauge Joshua

2115
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:20,650
that's the gauge so if we have channels

2116
01:45:26,250 --> 01:45:23,770
and networks out there dedicated to UFO

2117
01:45:29,310 --> 01:45:26,260
and paranormal programming 24 hours a

2118
01:45:30,630 --> 01:45:29,320
day seven days a week with advertisers

2119
01:45:34,110 --> 01:45:30,640
spending their money than where they

2120
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:34,120
could spend it anywhere right that

2121
01:45:38,729 --> 01:45:36,880
that's that for me is is the gauge

2122
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:38,739
that's where I can go to somebody else

2123
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:43,449
ago they they're confident in this they

2124
01:45:48,570 --> 01:45:45,489
know that the viewer shippers are there

2125
01:45:51,390 --> 01:45:48,580
they know that the the numbers are there

2126
01:45:54,090 --> 01:45:51,400
in a broad stream of demographics and

2127
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:54,100
that is my barometer and that's where I

2128
01:45:59,070 --> 01:45:56,410
can sit back and go look okay there's

2129
01:46:02,459 --> 01:45:59,080
there some success here we've made some

2130
01:46:05,330 --> 01:46:02,469
headway and it's been very tough in

2131
01:46:08,189 --> 01:46:05,340
years gone past if you think about it

2132
01:46:11,939 --> 01:46:08,199
once a year Larry King would do a show

2133
01:46:15,300 --> 01:46:11,949
on on CNN he would do his UFO special

2134
01:46:18,780 --> 01:46:15,310
right have Shirley MacLaine on and

2135
01:46:22,020 --> 01:46:18,790
Stanton Friedman and James Fox and they

2136
01:46:24,689 --> 01:46:22,030
would go at it right or you know UFOs

2137
01:46:27,390 --> 01:46:24,699
live I mean there would be some show

2138
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:27,400
that was on its it's not that kind of

2139
01:46:33,650 --> 01:46:31,170
party anymore there is 24 hour a day

2140
01:46:37,010 --> 01:46:33,660
dedicated network program

2141
01:46:39,710 --> 01:46:37,020
two UFOs and the paranormal in the

2142
01:46:42,860 --> 01:46:39,720
supernatural it is what society is

2143
01:46:44,780 --> 01:46:42,870
asking questions about therefore right

2144
01:46:46,910 --> 01:46:44,790
and it's that's that's why I sit back

2145
01:46:51,020 --> 01:46:46,920
like you said and feel a little

2146
01:46:52,970 --> 01:46:51,030
vindication I feel pretty good that the

2147
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:52,980
almighty advertising dollar is

2148
01:46:58,880 --> 01:46:55,170
supporting this community and I'll stand

2149
01:47:01,550 --> 01:46:58,890
by that statement well you know I was

2150
01:47:03,290 --> 01:47:01,560
raised up in the Blue Ridge Mountains of

2151
01:47:05,150 --> 01:47:03,300
Western North Carolina and during a

2152
01:47:10,030 --> 01:47:05,160
period of time when you know was

2153
01:47:12,500 --> 01:47:10,040
hardcore billy graham land and basically

2154
01:47:15,440 --> 01:47:12,510
when I was when I remember when I was a

2155
01:47:17,990 --> 01:47:15,450
teenager there was a girl that I wanted

2156
01:47:21,110 --> 01:47:18,000
to take out on a date and her father

2157
01:47:23,930 --> 01:47:21,120
wouldn't let me take her out because I

2158
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:23,940
had written a ghost story and he said

2159
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:26,850
all that's satanic or whatever just goes

2160
01:47:42,980 --> 01:47:38,420
and so like I I've seen that side of of

2161
01:47:45,980 --> 01:47:42,990
lies and over the years I've had people

2162
01:47:47,810 --> 01:47:45,990
say oh well you're a con man you're just

2163
01:47:49,850 --> 01:47:47,820
trying to make money because you're

2164
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:49,860
telling people that there are ghosts we

2165
01:47:57,740 --> 01:47:53,850
all know that's BS I've heard all this

2166
01:48:00,410 --> 01:47:57,750
stuff and I thought to myself okay for

2167
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:00,420
one thing I'm not I'm not preaching

2168
01:48:04,910 --> 01:48:02,490
anything I'm just saying I'm

2169
01:48:07,370 --> 01:48:04,920
investigating this stuff what's the harm

2170
01:48:11,630 --> 01:48:07,380
in investigating things but I always

2171
01:48:14,590 --> 01:48:11,640
thought to myself Jimmy if my gut tells

2172
01:48:18,380 --> 01:48:14,600
me that these people I'm talking to are

2173
01:48:18,940 --> 01:48:18,390
seeing ghosts and they're telling the

2174
01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:18,950
truth

2175
01:48:26,330 --> 01:48:21,600
if these people I'm talking to are

2176
01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:26,340
seeing aliens and flying saucers or

2177
01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:27,450
whatever and they're telling the truth

2178
01:48:32,630 --> 01:48:30,000
even if the people I'm talking to are

2179
01:48:36,530 --> 01:48:32,640
seeing Bigfoot or whatever and they're

2180
01:48:39,410 --> 01:48:36,540
telling well eventually all this is

2181
01:48:42,290 --> 01:48:39,420
going to collapse or it's going to

2182
01:48:46,130 --> 01:48:42,300
explode because it's either a kit can't

2183
01:48:47,330 --> 01:48:46,140
be true and not true right it's got

2184
01:48:50,570 --> 01:48:47,340
whatever you

2185
01:48:54,169 --> 01:48:50,580
I agree and boy let me tell you my

2186
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:54,179
friends I have seen how that I've just

2187
01:48:59,959 --> 01:48:56,489
put this out there over my lifetime I've

2188
01:49:04,910 --> 01:48:59,969
said think about this just look at this

2189
01:49:10,339 --> 01:49:04,920
okay and right now everybody is starting

2190
01:49:13,129 --> 01:49:10,349
to see holy cow this is real and so what

2191
01:49:15,530 --> 01:49:13,139
we have to do at this point is start

2192
01:49:18,830 --> 01:49:15,540
supporting the effort that makes people

2193
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:18,840
feel comfortable maybe that's one of the

2194
01:49:24,589 --> 01:49:22,650
things about this area 51 yeah it's it's

2195
01:49:28,070 --> 01:49:24,599
not surprising to me and probably not

2196
01:49:29,689 --> 01:49:28,080
surprising to you that this thing fell

2197
01:49:32,030 --> 01:49:29,699
apart because it really never was

2198
01:49:33,500 --> 01:49:32,040
anything to begin with okay and I don't

2199
01:49:35,810 --> 01:49:33,510
even know what is I don't even know

2200
01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:35,820
what's going on there I want you know

2201
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:37,199
for those who didn't listen to the

2202
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:38,489
beginning in the show and are just

2203
01:49:42,530 --> 01:49:40,290
tuning in now I want to repeat I'm not

2204
01:49:44,870 --> 01:49:42,540
involved with the area 51 event I've

2205
01:49:47,450 --> 01:49:44,880
never been involved I'm not promoting

2206
01:49:49,820 --> 01:49:47,460
anything I'm not supporting anything but

2207
01:49:52,609 --> 01:49:49,830
what I am doing is taking full advantage

2208
01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:52,619
of the people who are feeling

2209
01:49:58,820 --> 01:49:55,679
comfortable now to talk about things

2210
01:50:02,300 --> 01:49:58,830
that they were never comfortable talking

2211
01:50:06,140 --> 01:50:02,310
about before and when people listen to a

2212
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:06,150
show like fade to black and they realize

2213
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:09,210
okay this guy Jimmy Church doesn't sound

2214
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:12,449
like he belongs in an asylum and this

2215
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:15,090
guy Joshua Warren he sounds pretty sane

2216
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:17,489
and they seemed to be making some decent

2217
01:50:22,820 --> 01:50:20,130
points well then it gives people the

2218
01:50:25,339 --> 01:50:22,830
confidence to come out and say all right

2219
01:50:28,850 --> 01:50:25,349
here's what I've got here's what I've

2220
01:50:30,620 --> 01:50:28,860
seen and that that is how you change the

2221
01:50:35,089 --> 01:50:30,630
world and that is the positive thing to

2222
01:50:37,459 --> 01:50:35,099
take from all of this the the other part

2223
01:50:40,609 --> 01:50:37,469
that I think gives people a lot of

2224
01:50:43,700 --> 01:50:40,619
confidence first off I mean I'm gonna

2225
01:50:45,919 --> 01:50:43,710
make this really quick I I believe I did

2226
01:50:49,729 --> 01:50:45,929
the Gallup poll tonight you probably

2227
01:50:52,430 --> 01:50:49,739
heard that 33% or whatever think that et

2228
01:50:57,020 --> 01:50:52,440
is here right okay all right I believe

2229
01:51:01,429 --> 01:50:57,030
that number is 9 out of 10 and I am not

2230
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:01,439
kidding about that the the ability to

2231
01:51:06,469 --> 01:51:03,840
out of that she'll and admit to that

2232
01:51:08,209 --> 01:51:06,479
that's that's the other part that you're

2233
01:51:13,390 --> 01:51:08,219
referring to there were you know we've

2234
01:51:19,459 --> 01:51:13,400
got to concur that that being said the

2235
01:51:22,009 --> 01:51:19,469
government today tied in with the mass

2236
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:22,019
media and I'm talking about Fox and CNN

2237
01:51:26,270 --> 01:51:24,449
and BBC you know across the board New

2238
01:51:29,810 --> 01:51:26,280
York Times Washington Post Politico

2239
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:29,820
whatever pick pick an outlet that are

2240
01:51:36,859 --> 01:51:34,050
are now comfortable in exposing the

2241
01:51:41,390 --> 01:51:36,869
masses to this that's where the comfort

2242
01:51:42,799 --> 01:51:41,400
level to comes out because you know that

2243
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:42,809
everybody's having these thoughts and

2244
01:51:48,649 --> 01:51:45,119
Joshua when when everything went down

2245
01:51:50,839 --> 01:51:48,659
back in December of 2017

2246
01:51:52,429 --> 01:51:50,849
and the New York Times did that that

2247
01:51:55,459 --> 01:51:52,439
thing in the post and it was all over

2248
01:52:00,319 --> 01:51:55,469
talk radio and that Saturday the next

2249
01:52:04,009 --> 01:52:00,329
day Sunday and my family I'm over with

2250
01:52:05,899 --> 01:52:04,019
all of my in-laws here in Burbank and we

2251
01:52:09,049 --> 01:52:05,909
get together the whole family lives here

2252
01:52:11,419 --> 01:52:09,059
and so once a month you know five ten

2253
01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:11,429
twenty of us I get together for dinner

2254
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:14,400
and we can't escape that they all know

2255
01:52:20,870 --> 01:52:17,090
what I do for a living they don't listen

2256
01:52:24,529 --> 01:52:20,880
they don't hit watch TV but they know

2257
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:24,539
what I do one thing is for sure I have

2258
01:52:31,609 --> 01:52:27,599
never had a conversation about UFOs with

2259
01:52:32,929 --> 01:52:31,619
my family ever never happen they'll say

2260
01:52:34,899 --> 01:52:32,939
you know Jimmy how's the show going

2261
01:52:38,089 --> 01:52:34,909
how's the career going how's this going

2262
01:52:40,009 --> 01:52:38,099
it's good okay then we're off and we go

2263
01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:40,019
into another direction that's it that's

2264
01:52:45,500 --> 01:52:42,239
Sunday after the Saturday

2265
01:52:48,259 --> 01:52:45,510
my entire family sat around the table

2266
01:52:52,069 --> 01:52:48,269
and we're saying things like and blew my

2267
01:52:54,109 --> 01:52:52,079
mind of course we're not alone UFOs are

2268
01:52:56,179 --> 01:52:54,119
here of course there's et of course

2269
01:52:59,089 --> 01:52:56,189
there's you of what do you think you

2270
01:53:01,370 --> 01:52:59,099
know okay I could not believe that that

2271
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:01,380
was their mindset the but we had never

2272
01:53:06,649 --> 01:53:04,110
talked about it before suddenly it was

2273
01:53:11,299 --> 01:53:06,659
okay for them because the New York Times

2274
01:53:13,250 --> 01:53:11,309
said it was so right now it's on the

2275
01:53:15,650 --> 01:53:13,260
radio now it's on TV and

2276
01:53:18,020 --> 01:53:15,660
now they are freely talking about it and

2277
01:53:20,210 --> 01:53:18,030
that's what I appreciate whatever the

2278
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:20,220
truths or half-truths or the tic-tac

2279
01:53:25,970 --> 01:53:23,610
video or or any of that or the CIA or

2280
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:25,980
the Pentagon or project mocking but I

2281
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:28,010
don't care about any of that the

2282
01:53:33,530 --> 01:53:31,170
conversation is being had and I know it

2283
01:53:36,110 --> 01:53:33,540
because my own family that never talks

2284
01:53:38,090 --> 01:53:36,120
about this stuff suddenly it was just

2285
01:53:40,190 --> 01:53:38,100
like oh you know turning on the tap in

2286
01:53:42,470 --> 01:53:40,200
your kitchen too full you know I

2287
01:53:45,530 --> 01:53:42,480
couldn't turn it off it was like stuck

2288
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:45,540
on on and I was just in shock I was in

2289
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:47,130
shock and that's what I'm appreciative

2290
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:48,930
about do you think that that is

2291
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:51,810
eventually going to happen worldwide

2292
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:54,000
where these conversations are gonna

2293
01:53:57,170 --> 01:53:55,290
start to happen freely because

2294
01:53:59,240 --> 01:53:57,180
everybody's been thinking about it

2295
01:54:02,570 --> 01:53:59,250
anyway but they've been apprehensive

2296
01:54:08,390 --> 01:54:02,580
about it oh yeah you you and I are gonna

2297
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:08,400
be nothing special very soon I find that

2298
01:54:13,370 --> 01:54:11,250
ironic as well because I've always

2299
01:54:17,450 --> 01:54:13,380
thought yeah and let's just use Bigfoot

2300
01:54:20,030 --> 01:54:17,460
as just a an easy example okay let's say

2301
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:20,040
that tomorrow somebody actually went out

2302
01:54:26,450 --> 01:54:23,370
and found a Bigfoot you know shot it

2303
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:26,460
tranquilized it captured it whatever in

2304
01:54:31,460 --> 01:54:27,930
it and we say holy cow

2305
01:54:34,820 --> 01:54:31,470
that's amazing well then the biologist

2306
01:54:36,740 --> 01:54:34,830
would step in and say okay we're the

2307
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:36,750
real scientists we'll take it from here

2308
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:40,080
you know and then nobody's gonna talk to

2309
01:54:44,930 --> 01:54:42,930
the wacky guy who spent 30 years or

2310
01:54:47,300 --> 01:54:44,940
whatever looking for that thing they're

2311
01:54:50,150 --> 01:54:47,310
gonna ask the biologists what happened

2312
01:54:52,100 --> 01:54:50,160
and I I've actually had experiences

2313
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:52,110
along these lines like for example for

2314
01:54:57,590 --> 01:54:54,000
decades I researched the Brown Mountain

2315
01:54:59,930 --> 01:54:57,600
lights and everybody thought well he's a

2316
01:55:02,450 --> 01:54:59,940
paranormal guy so who know and then all

2317
01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:02,460
of a sudden finally this guy who's a

2318
01:55:09,110 --> 01:55:06,000
doctor at a university he captured them

2319
01:55:11,060 --> 01:55:09,120
and said they were real and now people

2320
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:11,070
believe it just because he said it

2321
01:55:16,970 --> 01:55:14,970
finally right so that's the the blessing

2322
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:16,980
and the curse of what we do the blessing

2323
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:19,530
is we get to be right there on the edge

2324
01:55:27,020 --> 01:55:22,770
and we're doing the exploration but the

2325
01:55:28,790 --> 01:55:27,030
curse is when just the discoveries made

2326
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:28,800
you know when people open their minds

2327
01:55:36,109 --> 01:55:31,650
when culture changes then all of a

2328
01:55:38,089 --> 01:55:36,119
sudden okay well let the guy with PhD

2329
01:55:41,060 --> 01:55:38,099
yeah you know that's what's gonna Joshua

2330
01:55:43,850 --> 01:55:41,070
you're exactly right right the it

2331
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:43,860
happens whatever it is it's et right

2332
01:55:49,339 --> 01:55:46,650
boom done confirmation and they're gonna

2333
01:55:50,930 --> 01:55:49,349
be talking to Neil deGrasse Tyson right

2334
01:55:52,790 --> 01:55:50,940
they're not gonna be talking to me

2335
01:55:56,180 --> 01:55:52,800
they're not going to be talking to you

2336
01:55:58,120 --> 01:55:56,190
George Noory you know they're it's not

2337
01:56:00,649 --> 01:55:58,130
going to go in that direction now

2338
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:00,659
they're gonna bring on some you know

2339
01:56:06,290 --> 01:56:04,530
show with the PhD I would hope they

2340
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:06,300
talked to Brian Greene Brian Greene is

2341
01:56:11,629 --> 01:56:09,570
cool and he believes in et but all those

2342
01:56:14,299 --> 01:56:11,639
skeptics out there they're gonna go to

2343
01:56:16,939 --> 01:56:14,309
those guys first and just because

2344
01:56:18,859 --> 01:56:16,949
they're a physicist you know and that's

2345
01:56:20,450 --> 01:56:18,869
that's gonna be really unfortunate

2346
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:20,460
because there's been a lot of you think

2347
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:21,840
they're gonna go and interview Travis

2348
01:56:28,580 --> 01:56:26,130
Walton right right you know and and

2349
01:56:31,939 --> 01:56:28,590
somebody that's been out there for 40

2350
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:31,949
years on the front lines fighting this

2351
01:56:38,990 --> 01:56:36,000
thing you know and and going up against

2352
01:56:42,020 --> 01:56:39,000
the man in the harshest of ways it is is

2353
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:42,030
Travis gonna get his do right is Linda

2354
01:56:48,979 --> 01:56:44,690
Moulton Howe finally gonna you know

2355
01:56:50,899 --> 01:56:48,989
Richard Dolan or you baby even Steven

2356
01:56:54,260 --> 01:56:50,909
Greer right Steven Greer gonna get some

2357
01:56:56,060 --> 01:56:54,270
air time probably not yeah that's the

2358
01:56:58,459 --> 01:56:56,070
harsh reality of it hey you know what

2359
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:58,469
I'm not done with you yet

2360
01:57:04,580 --> 01:57:01,199
so let's go ahead and get into some

2361
01:57:07,010 --> 01:57:04,590
overtime because I want to discuss is

2362
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:07,020
that okay I know you're a busy man can

2363
01:57:11,629 --> 01:57:09,210
you hang out for some overtime only

2364
01:57:13,220 --> 01:57:11,639
because I knew you were gonna say it so

2365
01:57:15,500 --> 01:57:13,230
I'm gonna before you change your mind

2366
01:57:18,649 --> 01:57:15,510
let's go to a commercial right now I

2367
01:57:21,500 --> 01:57:18,659
guess and I just would be warned but you

2368
01:57:23,810 --> 01:57:21,510
brought up a couple of points right in

2369
01:57:26,089 --> 01:57:23,820
the last segment that with the

2370
01:57:28,250 --> 01:57:26,099
supernatural and paranormal and ufology

2371
01:57:30,290 --> 01:57:28,260
and I want to circle back to those

2372
01:57:31,490 --> 01:57:30,300
comments and we'll close up the show

2373
01:57:33,260 --> 01:57:31,500
stay right there Joshua

2374
01:57:35,930 --> 01:57:33,270
this is fade to black I ran out of air

2375
01:57:37,609 --> 01:57:35,940
talking too much spade to black armies

2376
01:57:38,410 --> 01:57:37,619
Jimmy Church on the game changer network

2377
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:38,420
and

2378
01:57:43,990 --> 01:57:41,450
chay-ara the planet Joshua's website

2379
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:44,000
Joshua P Warren comm the links are at

2380
01:57:46,550 --> 01:57:45,770
Jimmy Church radio calm we'll be right

2381
01:57:58,169 --> 01:57:46,560
back stay with us

2382
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:00,340
welcome back fade to black I'm nervous

2383
01:58:03,609 --> 01:58:01,730
Jimmy Church what a great show tonight

2384
01:58:06,729 --> 01:58:03,619
Joshua would be worn doing some overtime

2385
01:58:09,399 --> 01:58:06,739
got a circle back and tie some things up

2386
01:58:12,359 --> 01:58:09,409
but we were talking about right before

2387
01:58:14,439 --> 01:58:12,369
the break and one of them is this Joshua

2388
01:58:16,390 --> 01:58:14,449
talking about the paranormal and

2389
01:58:18,939 --> 01:58:16,400
supernatural well there's another thing

2390
01:58:21,070 --> 01:58:18,949
that is starting to support us and that

2391
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:21,080
is the science side of things and

2392
01:58:28,810 --> 01:58:23,690
physics and specifically string theory

2393
01:58:32,189 --> 01:58:28,820
and multi worlds and multi dimensions

2394
01:58:34,750 --> 01:58:32,199
and the only way that string theory

2395
01:58:37,780 --> 01:58:34,760
works while it works for a lot of

2396
01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:37,790
different reasons but the way that the

2397
01:58:43,500 --> 01:58:41,119
math fits together is they had to get

2398
01:58:46,570 --> 01:58:43,510
out of our three-dimensional world and

2399
01:58:49,870 --> 01:58:46,580
introduce a fourth and a fifth and a six

2400
01:58:52,540 --> 01:58:49,880
seven eight nine ten dimensions and in

2401
01:58:56,109 --> 01:58:52,550
that in those dimensions the math starts

2402
01:58:59,649 --> 01:58:56,119
to work and it does work but what is

2403
01:59:03,729 --> 01:58:59,659
interesting about that is if those ten

2404
01:59:07,810 --> 01:59:03,739
dimensions and they are saying that they

2405
01:59:10,689 --> 01:59:07,820
have to be there if those are actual and

2406
01:59:12,459 --> 01:59:10,699
I believe that they are then we fall

2407
01:59:15,010 --> 01:59:12,469
back into the paranormal and the

2408
01:59:17,550 --> 01:59:15,020
supernatural in the et aspect of it and

2409
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:17,560
even Bigfoot it's in a strange way in

2410
01:59:25,140 --> 01:59:22,010
that some of what we are witnessing

2411
01:59:28,300 --> 01:59:25,150
whether they are ghosts life-after-death

2412
01:59:32,530 --> 01:59:28,310
ET spaceships appearing and disappearing

2413
01:59:34,330 --> 01:59:32,540
in the blink of an eye like this object

2414
01:59:38,979 --> 01:59:34,340
here in this video that you've shown

2415
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:38,989
tonight that these may be coming in and

2416
01:59:46,479 --> 01:59:43,250
out of dimensions and all of this all of

2417
01:59:53,129 --> 01:59:46,489
this ghosts and the supernatural and in

2418
01:59:56,439 --> 01:59:53,139
leprechauns demons angels spirit beings

2419
01:59:59,129 --> 01:59:56,449
crafton that all of this could be

2420
02:00:04,390 --> 01:59:59,139
connected do you think that there is an

2421
02:00:07,089 --> 02:00:04,400
interdimensional aspect to it okay so

2422
02:00:10,060 --> 02:00:07,099
let's go down the rabbit hole here let's

2423
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:10,070
go that's why you're here take me so

2424
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:12,490
well for one thing

2425
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:14,930
do you and me this may seem a little bit

2426
02:00:20,290 --> 02:00:17,090
redundant but I think that you can't

2427
02:00:23,580 --> 02:00:20,300
have a genuine conversation about

2428
02:00:25,780 --> 02:00:23,590
interdimensional beings without

2429
02:00:27,970 --> 02:00:25,790
understanding what that means what a

2430
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:27,980
dimension means that's where that's your

2431
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:31,370
your baseline so for those who have

2432
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:33,290
never heard this before bear with me for

2433
02:00:36,190 --> 02:00:34,610
a moment this is the best way I can

2434
02:00:37,570 --> 02:00:36,200
explain to you what a dimension is

2435
02:00:39,700 --> 02:00:37,580
because you're not going to be able to

2436
02:00:40,900 --> 02:00:39,710
comprehend it I can't comprehend it we

2437
02:00:42,580 --> 02:00:40,910
can't comprehend it

2438
02:00:45,730 --> 02:00:42,590
it works on paper but we can't

2439
02:00:47,950 --> 02:00:45,740
comprehend it so here's the handle so

2440
02:00:50,710 --> 02:00:47,960
I'll go back to a book that was written

2441
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:50,720
in the 1800's called flatland okay so

2442
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:55,130
the idea is you and I are at least three

2443
02:01:00,580 --> 02:00:57,530
dimensional and we all kind of know what

2444
02:01:01,450 --> 02:01:00,590
that means you have height and width and

2445
02:01:04,990 --> 02:01:01,460
depth

2446
02:01:07,330 --> 02:01:05,000
the three basic physical dimensions but

2447
02:01:10,810 --> 02:01:07,340
imagine a world that didn't have all

2448
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:10,820
three dimensions that only had two so a

2449
02:01:16,510 --> 02:01:13,850
flat lamb so instead of you being a

2450
02:01:19,980 --> 02:01:16,520
human what if you were a piece of paper

2451
02:01:23,050 --> 02:01:19,990
cut into the shape of a circle right now

2452
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:23,060
still to be technically accurate I mean

2453
02:01:27,610 --> 02:01:25,850
there is a little bit of width to even

2454
02:01:31,150 --> 02:01:27,620
that piece of paper but if you were a

2455
02:01:37,570 --> 02:01:31,160
part of flatland and your whole world

2456
02:01:39,730 --> 02:01:37,580
was flat all you would see or experience

2457
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:39,740
is what's directly in front of you so

2458
02:01:44,410 --> 02:01:41,930
that's right if a being like you were me

2459
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:44,420
Jimmy who are in three dimensions came

2460
02:01:48,970 --> 02:01:46,850
along we have this other thing called

2461
02:01:50,740 --> 02:01:48,980
you know height or whatever you want to

2462
02:01:54,700 --> 02:01:50,750
call it and we can look down and weeks

2463
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:54,710
and see into their houses and we could

2464
02:01:59,200 --> 02:01:57,530
say hey a little flat flatlander guy and

2465
02:02:02,470 --> 02:01:59,210
you'd say where's that voice coming from

2466
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:02,480
that's right that's right or if I wanted

2467
02:02:07,780 --> 02:02:04,850
to descend into flatland

2468
02:02:10,810 --> 02:02:07,790
all the little flatlander guy would see

2469
02:02:12,310 --> 02:02:10,820
were weird shapes that would appear

2470
02:02:15,850 --> 02:02:12,320
before him because he would just be

2471
02:02:17,470 --> 02:02:15,860
seeing slices of me very similar to what

2472
02:02:22,540 --> 02:02:17,480
you have in the medical field when you

2473
02:02:24,589 --> 02:02:22,550
see slices of a scan of somebody so that

2474
02:02:26,930 --> 02:02:24,599
makes sense to us that

2475
02:02:28,580 --> 02:02:26,940
you if you transform yourself from a

2476
02:02:31,990 --> 02:02:28,590
three-dimensional being into a

2477
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:32,000
two-dimensional being a two-dimensional

2478
02:02:36,500 --> 02:02:34,650
or or or if you let me put it this way

2479
02:02:37,669 --> 02:02:36,510
if you if you transfer yourself from a

2480
02:02:40,010 --> 02:02:37,679
three-dimensional being into a

2481
02:02:42,859 --> 02:02:40,020
two-dimensional world a two-dimensional

2482
02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:42,869
being is only going to see a bunch of

2483
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:44,400
weird stuff that just sort of appears

2484
02:02:48,709 --> 02:02:46,650
out of nowhere and or they hear

2485
02:02:51,260 --> 02:02:48,719
something out of nowhere etc they

2486
02:02:51,589 --> 02:02:51,270
wouldn't make any sense to them not at

2487
02:02:56,870 --> 02:02:51,599
all

2488
02:03:01,370 --> 02:02:56,880
none why would it you know so it doesn't

2489
02:03:03,439 --> 02:03:01,380
make any sense to us if we have an

2490
02:03:06,109 --> 02:03:03,449
encounter with a being from a fourth

2491
02:03:10,819 --> 02:03:06,119
dimension or a fifth or sixth or seventh

2492
02:03:12,890 --> 02:03:10,829
or eighth or not and maybe there is an

2493
02:03:14,629 --> 02:03:12,900
infinite amount of dimensions like we

2494
02:03:16,609 --> 02:03:14,639
don't even know how far this goes but

2495
02:03:19,129 --> 02:03:16,619
let's just stick with ten keep it simple

2496
02:03:20,660 --> 02:03:19,139
for the radio here okay well that's

2497
02:03:23,839 --> 02:03:20,670
pretty good ten right we can't even

2498
02:03:27,189 --> 02:03:23,849
imagine what forces not to mention yeah

2499
02:03:31,750 --> 02:03:27,199
so if we are having these encounters

2500
02:03:36,649 --> 02:03:31,760
with these beings that might exist ah

2501
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:36,659
within another another dimension the way

2502
02:03:43,700 --> 02:03:40,130
that we talk about paranormal phenomena

2503
02:03:46,540 --> 02:03:43,710
greatly mimics the way that a two

2504
02:03:49,060 --> 02:03:46,550
dimensional being would talk about

2505
02:03:53,390 --> 02:03:49,070
encountering a three-dimensional being

2506
02:03:55,669 --> 02:03:53,400
so therefore it does make a lot of sense

2507
02:03:57,950 --> 02:03:55,679
that when you hear people say you know

2508
02:04:00,020 --> 02:03:57,960
what I just saw this thing just appear

2509
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:00,030
out of nowhere I don't even know what

2510
02:04:09,050 --> 02:04:04,530
the heck it was I heard this voice I had

2511
02:04:12,919 --> 02:04:09,060
this experience well you can sort of use

2512
02:04:16,879 --> 02:04:12,929
that as an example of what it would

2513
02:04:19,430 --> 02:04:16,889
would be at any point for someone to

2514
02:04:23,359 --> 02:04:19,440
experience an interaction with a

2515
02:04:26,510 --> 02:04:23,369
conscious being that occupies more than

2516
02:04:29,569 --> 02:04:26,520
the three or four dimensions and of

2517
02:04:32,290 --> 02:04:29,579
course we always talk about time being

2518
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:32,300
the fourth dimension and time is simply

2519
02:04:43,860 --> 02:04:38,290
things happening over duration

2520
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:43,870
so starting they're starting there are

2521
02:04:52,110 --> 02:04:47,730
these things from another dimensional

2522
02:04:54,810 --> 02:04:52,120
yeah and you have to also think about

2523
02:04:58,080 --> 02:04:54,820
the fact that okay when we're talking

2524
02:05:01,140 --> 02:04:58,090
about ghosts well and you know let's

2525
02:05:04,230 --> 02:05:01,150
just stick with UFOs when it comes to

2526
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:04,240
UFOs people say where are they from are

2527
02:05:06,950 --> 02:05:06,010
they from another planet are they from

2528
02:05:11,450 --> 02:05:06,960
another dimension

2529
02:05:15,630 --> 02:05:11,460
they're from both because if they are

2530
02:05:18,090 --> 02:05:15,640
traveling here against all the odds that

2531
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:18,100
we're able to perceive from our human

2532
02:05:26,310 --> 02:05:21,210
point of view that means they are

2533
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:26,320
somehow manipulating space-time and to

2534
02:05:31,410 --> 02:05:28,570
manipulate space-time that means you

2535
02:05:35,550 --> 02:05:31,420
come from elsewhere it's not just a rock

2536
02:05:41,580 --> 02:05:35,560
out there it's another level of a rock

2537
02:05:43,260 --> 02:05:41,590
out there and that's why it reminds me

2538
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:43,270
of that great quote from the movie the

2539
02:05:47,730 --> 02:05:45,040
Mothman Prophecies where the guy says

2540
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:47,740
why can't I know what's going on and the

2541
02:05:52,470 --> 02:05:49,930
expert says you're not allowed to know

2542
02:05:54,030 --> 02:05:52,480
well we're just little bugs here at the

2543
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:54,040
end of the day and I don't think we can

2544
02:05:58,860 --> 02:05:56,410
really understand exactly how all this

2545
02:06:04,580 --> 02:05:58,870
works but how close can we get Jimmy

2546
02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:04,590
well see there was I'll give you a

2547
02:06:13,020 --> 02:06:09,610
perfect perfect example of what I am

2548
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:13,030
talking about and this is where I go and

2549
02:06:20,070 --> 02:06:16,450
thank goodness I had a couple of hundred

2550
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:20,080
people with me okay all right we're all

2551
02:06:23,970 --> 02:06:21,760
out on the edge of this cliff we're

2552
02:06:25,590 --> 02:06:23,980
looking at up at the night sky where I'm

2553
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:25,600
sky watching you know night vision

2554
02:06:32,460 --> 02:06:27,490
doesn't that and we're all looking up

2555
02:06:34,890 --> 02:06:32,470
and at them up you tafoya no light

2556
02:06:39,890 --> 02:06:34,900
pollution right just the Milky Way and

2557
02:06:45,230 --> 02:06:39,900
just crazy you know panoramic night sky

2558
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:45,240
above us I'm going to say Joshua about

2559
02:06:51,700 --> 02:06:49,570
I'm gonna conservatively say 5,000 feet

2560
02:06:55,700 --> 02:06:51,710
not very high

2561
02:06:58,910 --> 02:06:55,710
across the sky now you hold up your arms

2562
02:07:01,130 --> 02:06:58,920
above you right hold up your arms and

2563
02:07:04,940 --> 02:07:01,140
you've got two feet in between your

2564
02:07:09,470 --> 02:07:04,950
hands right now imagine a chunk of sky

2565
02:07:10,100 --> 02:07:09,480
the night sky that wide okay alright are

2566
02:07:16,810 --> 02:07:10,110
you with me

2567
02:07:23,170 --> 02:07:16,820
yep from right to left this blue

2568
02:07:26,810 --> 02:07:23,180
aquamarine blue seafoam green thing

2569
02:07:29,660 --> 02:07:26,820
sputters and it's going from right to

2570
02:07:32,900 --> 02:07:29,670
left and it's sputter goes and then

2571
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:32,910
lights up right head sputters but right

2572
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:35,730
and then it lights up it goes very

2573
02:07:45,470 --> 02:07:41,370
quickly to the left stops goes down at

2574
02:07:50,870 --> 02:07:45,480
an angle and then takes off again to the

2575
02:07:53,810 --> 02:07:50,880
left sputters and then flashes twice

2576
02:07:56,870 --> 02:07:53,820
like it's headlights pop-up and then

2577
02:08:03,430 --> 02:07:56,880
shoots off it makes a backwards

2578
02:08:08,540 --> 02:08:03,440
Zoro Z in the sky and at last for about

2579
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:08,550
three seconds right along short right

2580
02:08:18,100 --> 02:08:12,090
but long enough where it was just an end

2581
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:18,110
now what the hell and everybody there

2582
02:08:26,330 --> 02:08:22,650
screamed we were all looking up we all

2583
02:08:28,250 --> 02:08:26,340
saw it now somebody explain that to me

2584
02:08:30,260 --> 02:08:28,260
and the only thing there was nothing

2585
02:08:35,090 --> 02:08:30,270
before there wasn't anything after it

2586
02:08:37,910 --> 02:08:35,100
just appeared and I keep playing this

2587
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:37,920
over in my mind's eye and and trust me

2588
02:08:42,410 --> 02:08:40,530
there are people right now listening to

2589
02:08:45,110 --> 02:08:42,420
this broadcast that are on Twitter that

2590
02:08:48,230 --> 02:08:45,120
are about to say I was there I was there

2591
02:08:53,090 --> 02:08:48,240
it was amazing we all screamed but it

2592
02:08:57,050 --> 02:08:53,100
was interdimensional it appeared right

2593
02:08:58,820 --> 02:08:57,060
it appeared it didn't fly in understand

2594
02:09:02,930 --> 02:08:58,830
what I'm saying it wasn't that kind of

2595
02:09:04,370 --> 02:09:02,940
physical thing it sputtered lit up did

2596
02:09:06,860 --> 02:09:04,380
this backwards or

2597
02:09:11,540 --> 02:09:06,870
the panoramic in the sky above is

2598
02:09:14,210 --> 02:09:11,550
ginormous covered miles of sky in like

2599
02:09:17,210 --> 02:09:14,220
three seconds citizens it and was gone

2600
02:09:20,510 --> 02:09:17,220
and and and blinked as it was leaving by

2601
02:09:24,140 --> 02:09:20,520
the way P peep did a little honk it was

2602
02:09:27,470 --> 02:09:24,150
crazy and I have to I have to go into

2603
02:09:29,710 --> 02:09:27,480
that zone of parallel worlds

2604
02:09:33,380 --> 02:09:29,720
interdimensional it just came in our

2605
02:09:35,450 --> 02:09:33,390
frequency at that moment Karen just

2606
02:09:40,190 --> 02:09:35,460
tweeted I was there it was definitely

2607
02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:40,200
amazing what's crazy and I don't know

2608
02:09:44,030 --> 02:09:42,000
and so when I get into this

2609
02:09:47,540 --> 02:09:44,040
interdimensional thing where I wasn't I

2610
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:47,550
wasn't in this mindset 10-15 years ago I

2611
02:09:54,020 --> 02:09:50,490
was in the nuts and bolts aspect of this

2612
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:54,030
you know very physical craft I when I

2613
02:09:58,670 --> 02:09:56,130
see something like this going back to

2614
02:10:01,580 --> 02:09:58,680
your point and I need your comment this

2615
02:10:04,330 --> 02:10:01,590
object that you just showed us in the

2616
02:10:07,790 --> 02:10:04,340
video tonight it's in the night sky

2617
02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:07,800
right it's not daytime we can't see the

2618
02:10:12,140 --> 02:10:09,840
physical cry you know what it possibly

2619
02:10:14,450 --> 02:10:12,150
could have been and it's the same thing

2620
02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:14,460
with what we saw in the night sky that

2621
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:17,250
night if this was during the day would

2622
02:10:24,170 --> 02:10:22,170
we have seen shiny metal right would we

2623
02:10:27,470 --> 02:10:24,180
have seen the Sun reflecting off of this

2624
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:27,480
or is this something else where it's

2625
02:10:33,050 --> 02:10:29,610
electric it's interdimensional it is

2626
02:10:35,030 --> 02:10:33,060
it's just in our frequency at that

2627
02:10:37,580 --> 02:10:35,040
moment and we're in the right plate

2628
02:10:38,540 --> 02:10:37,590
we're in the flatland right do you

2629
02:10:43,270 --> 02:10:38,550
understand what I'm saying

2630
02:10:46,430 --> 02:10:43,280
oh yeah well okay think about this so

2631
02:10:49,730 --> 02:10:46,440
it's a very good question to say well

2632
02:10:51,860 --> 02:10:49,740
how are these UFOs only flying around at

2633
02:10:53,620 --> 02:10:51,870
night and what you couldn't make a case

2634
02:10:57,680 --> 02:10:53,630
for that because of the way the

2635
02:10:58,370 --> 02:10:57,690
electromagnetic environment works but

2636
02:11:01,100 --> 02:10:58,380
mm-hmm

2637
02:11:02,180 --> 02:11:01,110
if I turn on you can try this if you've

2638
02:11:04,580 --> 02:11:02,190
never tried this before

2639
02:11:09,380 --> 02:11:04,590
take the brightest flashlight you have

2640
02:11:11,150 --> 02:11:09,390
and turn that thing on at noon or 1:00

2641
02:11:16,190 --> 02:11:11,160
or 2:00 or 3:00 o'clock in the afternoon

2642
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:16,200
and it just doesn't look that bright to

2643
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:17,490
your eye

2644
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:19,440
and then you turn that thing on at

2645
02:11:24,830 --> 02:11:22,290
midnight or 1:00 or 2:00 or 3:00 a.m.

2646
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:24,840
and it looks like a spotlight right

2647
02:11:29,930 --> 02:11:26,010
that's a great point

2648
02:11:35,930 --> 02:11:29,940
yeah and so a lot of these things are

2649
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:35,940
probably traveling around 24/7 but we

2650
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:38,250
have to think about what it what a human

2651
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:43,050
is capable of perceiving and also you

2652
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:45,570
might say well I have a camera and this

2653
02:11:50,180 --> 02:11:47,850
camera is a fine camera and it yeah I

2654
02:11:52,070 --> 02:11:50,190
spent a thousand bucks and well guess

2655
02:11:54,380 --> 02:11:52,080
what you're a human and you're looking

2656
02:11:57,950 --> 02:11:54,390
at that camera so you can't take the

2657
02:12:00,950 --> 02:11:57,960
human point of view out of those and so

2658
02:12:05,300 --> 02:12:00,960
it's it's it's about definition and it's

2659
02:12:09,590 --> 02:12:05,310
about contrast and so probably these

2660
02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:09,600
things are around us all the time it I

2661
02:12:15,650 --> 02:12:12,210
can see why that there would be more

2662
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:15,660
activity at night because here in our

2663
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:17,730
solar system of course we're being

2664
02:12:24,110 --> 02:12:20,610
bombarded by all this radiation from the

2665
02:12:25,490 --> 02:12:24,120
Sun and then of course if you're on the

2666
02:12:28,150 --> 02:12:25,500
side of the planet where you don't have

2667
02:12:30,980 --> 02:12:28,160
the Sun facing you ie it's nighttime

2668
02:12:33,830 --> 02:12:30,990
then you have a more calm environment

2669
02:12:35,780 --> 02:12:33,840
where you probably have less to deal

2670
02:12:38,150 --> 02:12:35,790
with if you have a sensitive piece of

2671
02:12:41,110 --> 02:12:38,160
machinery so it may be that things

2672
02:12:43,910 --> 02:12:41,120
actually do go on more often at night

2673
02:12:46,670 --> 02:12:43,920
and in terms of what we would think of

2674
02:12:49,790 --> 02:12:46,680
as paranormal but regardless even if

2675
02:12:53,090 --> 02:12:49,800
it's all happening consistently 24/7 it

2676
02:12:55,550 --> 02:12:53,100
boils down to what is the human able to

2677
02:12:57,770 --> 02:12:55,560
perceive and so you're going to be able

2678
02:13:01,940 --> 02:12:57,780
to perceive these things more distinctly

2679
02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:01,950
at mine and when it comes to the

2680
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:05,520
question of you know well really what

2681
02:13:09,890 --> 02:13:07,920
are we looking at here you know what

2682
02:13:11,650 --> 02:13:09,900
what at the end of the day like what is

2683
02:13:17,780 --> 02:13:11,660
this

2684
02:13:19,820 --> 02:13:17,790
well obviously and again again nothing

2685
02:13:22,340 --> 02:13:19,830
in life is certain right I mean like I

2686
02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:22,350
could be having a dream right now makeup

2687
02:13:28,370 --> 02:13:24,450
so I thought I was on the Jimmy Church

2688
02:13:31,399 --> 02:13:28,380
sure sure sure but if we're to look at

2689
02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:31,409
the circumstantial evidence now

2690
02:13:38,239 --> 02:13:34,130
what's happening here is there is

2691
02:13:40,609 --> 02:13:38,249
another civilization that has been

2692
02:13:45,979 --> 02:13:40,619
around longer than we have

2693
02:13:49,399 --> 02:13:45,989
I don't know where it probably doesn't

2694
02:13:51,679 --> 02:13:49,409
even matter where they are because they

2695
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:51,689
have figured out how to transcend

2696
02:14:01,819 --> 02:13:54,090
distance in the way that you and I think

2697
02:14:08,149 --> 02:14:01,829
of it and so this civilization is is

2698
02:14:10,669 --> 02:14:08,159
here and in looking at us and messing

2699
02:14:12,979 --> 02:14:10,679
around with us doesn't care if we know

2700
02:14:15,109 --> 02:14:12,989
about its existence like I tell people

2701
02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:15,119
all the time I go on a hike and I don't

2702
02:14:19,790 --> 02:14:17,610
try to proved to every squirrel and

2703
02:14:22,969 --> 02:14:19,800
rabbit that humans exist right

2704
02:14:27,699 --> 02:14:22,979
it doesn't care whether or not we know

2705
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:27,709
it exists but it's it's been around

2706
02:14:35,270 --> 02:14:31,530
longer than we have it doesn't mean us

2707
02:14:38,750 --> 02:14:35,280
any harm and I think you know they're

2708
02:14:41,479 --> 02:14:38,760
just coming here and some of them come

2709
02:14:45,229 --> 02:14:41,489
here to poke around some of them come

2710
02:14:47,589 --> 02:14:45,239
here because they have genetic

2711
02:14:50,929 --> 02:14:47,599
experiments they're doing some long gold

2712
02:14:53,089 --> 02:14:50,939
you know yeah but what but why is that

2713
02:14:56,199 --> 02:14:53,099
so hard to believe yeah why is that

2714
02:15:00,109 --> 02:14:56,209
because you bring up a great point about

2715
02:15:03,109 --> 02:15:00,119
squirrels or you know dogs may be the

2716
02:15:06,500 --> 02:15:03,119
exception but but nearly any animal on

2717
02:15:08,770 --> 02:15:06,510
this planet where they are and that's a

2718
02:15:13,219 --> 02:15:08,780
great reference there in the flatlands

2719
02:15:17,379 --> 02:15:13,229
right they they see us but that they

2720
02:15:18,620 --> 02:15:17,389
they're not wanting for the Internet

2721
02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:18,630
right

2722
02:15:25,219 --> 02:15:22,530
they you know you drive a Lamborghini

2723
02:15:28,669 --> 02:15:25,229
for example Joshua I've seen it it's a

2724
02:15:30,439 --> 02:15:28,679
nice car do you think that the squirrels

2725
02:15:32,810 --> 02:15:30,449
sit when you're on your hike and you

2726
02:15:37,819 --> 02:15:32,820
pull up in your Lamborghini to go hiking

2727
02:15:40,069 --> 02:15:37,829
that they they're jealous no right they

2728
02:15:42,350 --> 02:15:40,079
don't you know they don't I'm kidding

2729
02:15:44,970 --> 02:15:42,360
about the Lamborghini everybody you

2730
02:15:47,850 --> 02:15:44,980
don't drive a Lamborghini do

2731
02:15:50,220 --> 02:15:47,860
I can either confirm or deny that is is

2732
02:15:54,510 --> 02:15:50,230
that are they jealous of your clothes of

2733
02:15:56,880 --> 02:15:54,520
your shoes of your new cellphone are

2734
02:15:59,630 --> 02:15:56,890
they hoping that you're gonna stop and

2735
02:16:04,170 --> 02:15:59,640
and and you're gonna show them how to

2736
02:16:08,970 --> 02:16:04,180
loom or weave or sew some fashionable

2737
02:16:13,670 --> 02:16:08,980
clothing no it's not that kind of party

2738
02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:13,680
and for most of us seeing something

2739
02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:17,170
zipping around we we just don't realize

2740
02:16:23,340 --> 02:16:17,440
it

2741
02:16:27,450 --> 02:16:23,350
part of our world you know we're just

2742
02:16:29,220 --> 02:16:27,460
now starting to catch it but going over

2743
02:16:32,580 --> 02:16:29,230
the past no probably not

2744
02:16:34,530 --> 02:16:32,590
I'll bring up another point you you you

2745
02:16:37,250 --> 02:16:34,540
and the squirrels or one thing or the

2746
02:16:40,530 --> 02:16:37,260
rattlesnakes or whatever you see on your

2747
02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:40,540
your hike but that's the way that you

2748
02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:43,120
look at them you you are not stopping to

2749
02:16:47,190 --> 02:16:45,130
teach them how to write code for a

2750
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:47,200
computer right they don't have that

2751
02:16:56,730 --> 02:16:53,290
concept ET coming to earth probably not

2752
02:16:59,160 --> 02:16:56,740
until the last 300 years of a peer

2753
02:17:02,250 --> 02:16:59,170
science right peer science the last 300

2754
02:17:06,270 --> 02:17:02,260
years Galileo da Vinci you know and

2755
02:17:08,850 --> 02:17:06,280
moving forward but before that did do

2756
02:17:11,850 --> 02:17:08,860
they just look at us as squirrels not as

2757
02:17:13,500 --> 02:17:11,860
ants but dinosaurs or the other

2758
02:17:16,230 --> 02:17:13,510
creatures that are running around on

2759
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:16,240
this planet do they equate us as being

2760
02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:19,690
just like them right and is there an

2761
02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:22,840
interest there for them to stop and show

2762
02:17:29,970 --> 02:17:26,559
us about you know a thousand years ago

2763
02:17:33,480 --> 02:17:29,980
spanning time and finding wormholes in

2764
02:17:36,470 --> 02:17:33,490
the universe and Torbert this is what a

2765
02:17:38,879 --> 02:17:36,480
starship is this is what this is how we

2766
02:17:43,290 --> 02:17:38,889
time-travel know

2767
02:17:47,030 --> 02:17:43,300
hey there wouldn't be we couldn't learn

2768
02:17:51,089 --> 02:17:47,040
it even if they were willing to teach us

2769
02:17:53,839 --> 02:17:51,099
we you know there's no electricity back

2770
02:17:56,640 --> 02:17:53,849
then we wouldn't have any concept right

2771
02:17:58,020 --> 02:17:56,650
well let me put it this way let's say

2772
02:18:00,720 --> 02:17:58,030
there's somebody listening

2773
02:18:05,180 --> 02:18:00,730
to your show right now and that person

2774
02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:05,190
is the most strict materialistic

2775
02:18:12,900 --> 02:18:09,519
atheistic skeptical person in the world

2776
02:18:15,030 --> 02:18:12,910
okay we have somebody who's just a

2777
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:15,040
scientist it just doesn't believe in

2778
02:18:21,770 --> 02:18:18,250
anything and says it I am only about

2779
02:18:24,540 --> 02:18:21,780
what is material and empirical okay fine

2780
02:18:29,940 --> 02:18:24,550
two things you need to keep in mind

2781
02:18:33,240 --> 02:18:29,950
number one well even if that's the case

2782
02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:33,250
if you take your biggest telescope and

2783
02:18:37,950 --> 02:18:35,530
you look out there as far as we can see

2784
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:37,960
this is supposedly the only planet that

2785
02:18:43,110 --> 02:18:41,170
has anything like life on it so that

2786
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:43,120
means Earth is a paranormal place to

2787
02:18:49,799 --> 02:18:45,040
begin with so we're starting with the

2788
02:18:52,379 --> 02:18:49,809
fact that we are in a petri dish here of

2789
02:18:54,839 --> 02:18:52,389
some time like we don't see it anywhere

2790
02:18:56,580 --> 02:18:54,849
else out there so Earth is a paranormal

2791
02:18:58,980 --> 02:18:56,590
place that means anything can happen

2792
02:19:02,220 --> 02:18:58,990
here so open your mind a little bit the

2793
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:02,230
second thing is if there is no other

2794
02:19:07,640 --> 02:19:04,410
life let's say there has never been

2795
02:19:11,490 --> 02:19:07,650
let's say there has never been another

2796
02:19:13,140 --> 02:19:11,500
quote-unquote intelligent species we get

2797
02:19:15,390 --> 02:19:13,150
to be the first ones that have ever

2798
02:19:18,839 --> 02:19:15,400
existed and we're the only ones that

2799
02:19:21,470 --> 02:19:18,849
exist and all you believe in is

2800
02:19:25,379 --> 02:19:21,480
technology then can you not at least

2801
02:19:28,410 --> 02:19:25,389
think about the possibility that we

2802
02:19:31,799 --> 02:19:28,420
understand the space-time is supposedly

2803
02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:31,809
a flexible thing and maybe at very least

2804
02:19:38,580 --> 02:19:33,040
these quote-unquote

2805
02:19:41,640 --> 02:19:38,590
aliens and alien ships are us are humans

2806
02:19:44,160 --> 02:19:41,650
right from the future right that have

2807
02:19:46,919 --> 02:19:44,170
figured out how to travel back into the

2808
02:19:49,620 --> 02:19:46,929
past because that's exactly what we

2809
02:19:54,630 --> 02:19:49,630
would do right exactly right that you

2810
02:19:56,640 --> 02:19:54,640
are 100% on the mark and it's a we're in

2811
02:19:58,200 --> 02:19:56,650
such a great conversation tonight but

2812
02:20:00,030 --> 02:19:58,210
I've got to sign off the network in a

2813
02:20:03,150 --> 02:20:00,040
few minutes so I'm gonna make this

2814
02:20:06,030 --> 02:20:03,160
statement as quick as I can their time

2815
02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:06,040
travel is real it has to be real and

2816
02:20:15,160 --> 02:20:10,850
just the very basics of Einstein

2817
02:20:17,559 --> 02:20:15,170
field equations state very simply that

2818
02:20:20,050 --> 02:20:17,569
if you and I Joshua jumped on a starship

2819
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:20,060
split planet Earth approached the speed

2820
02:20:26,620 --> 02:20:23,600
of light we cruise for a year we turn

2821
02:20:29,290 --> 02:20:26,630
around we come back a year later you and

2822
02:20:31,929 --> 02:20:29,300
I have aged two years but this planet

2823
02:20:35,650 --> 02:20:31,939
now is fifty thousand years in the

2824
02:20:40,240 --> 02:20:35,660
future and we arrive that is a fact this

2825
02:20:42,370 --> 02:20:40,250
is simply put we are now time travelers

2826
02:20:44,349 --> 02:20:42,380
now fifty thousand years in the future

2827
02:20:46,510 --> 02:20:44,359
you and I jump off the ship and we say

2828
02:20:48,219 --> 02:20:46,520
hey what's up everybody you figured out

2829
02:20:51,849 --> 02:20:48,229
time travel yet yeah we do it all the

2830
02:20:56,620 --> 02:20:51,859
time that that's a fact and now you and

2831
02:20:58,469 --> 02:20:56,630
I we time travel back to 2019 not to say

2832
02:21:01,000 --> 02:20:58,479
that we would be on the same timeline

2833
02:21:04,059 --> 02:21:01,010
doesn't mean that anybody would see us

2834
02:21:07,150 --> 02:21:04,069
are we in another parallel world are we

2835
02:21:09,550 --> 02:21:07,160
somewhere close to this frequency are we

2836
02:21:12,250 --> 02:21:09,560
able to fizzle in and out maybe be a

2837
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:12,260
ghost in somebody's living room maybe be

2838
02:21:16,660 --> 02:21:13,850
something in somebody's peripheral

2839
02:21:18,670 --> 02:21:16,670
vision or are we physically here but

2840
02:21:22,179 --> 02:21:18,680
time travel fifty thousand years from

2841
02:21:24,849 --> 02:21:22,189
now is conquered and there are time

2842
02:21:27,670 --> 02:21:24,859
travelers here right now is it what is

2843
02:21:30,610 --> 02:21:27,680
in the skies absolutely there's no

2844
02:21:32,500 --> 02:21:30,620
question about that and I I believe that

2845
02:21:35,679 --> 02:21:32,510
physicist right now are talking about

2846
02:21:37,780 --> 02:21:35,689
this very real possibility and it could

2847
02:21:43,710 --> 02:21:37,790
explain a lot of things the Mandela

2848
02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:43,720
effect I it could explain ghosts spirits

2849
02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:47,090
right now quantum physics and and

2850
02:21:52,030 --> 02:21:49,130
quantum computing is talking about the

2851
02:21:54,460 --> 02:21:52,040
operation of entanglement and qubits

2852
02:21:57,070 --> 02:21:54,470
operating in parallel worlds this is all

2853
02:21:59,889 --> 02:21:57,080
our reality today and I totally agree

2854
02:22:02,320 --> 02:21:59,899
with you if we if we just agree with our

2855
02:22:04,510 --> 02:22:02,330
science today and we understand what the

2856
02:22:07,719 --> 02:22:04,520
science is saying now about space-time

2857
02:22:10,090 --> 02:22:07,729
and what Einstein has said about it in

2858
02:22:11,590 --> 02:22:10,100
his field equations then time-travel is

2859
02:22:13,599 --> 02:22:11,600
real and that's the end of the

2860
02:22:16,870 --> 02:22:13,609
discussion there isn't anywhere else to

2861
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:16,880
go is there nope yeah that's it I mean

2862
02:22:24,220 --> 02:22:22,010
like we could keep on you know exploring

2863
02:22:27,190 --> 02:22:24,230
but that's that's the bottom line

2864
02:22:29,341 --> 02:22:27,200
and that is it thank you so much Joshua

2865
02:22:33,610 --> 02:22:29,351
what a great great show tonight

2866
02:22:35,740 --> 02:22:33,620
obviously there is Joshua P one calm but

2867
02:22:37,480 --> 02:22:35,750
for all of our friends out there in Las

2868
02:22:41,051 --> 02:22:37,490
Vegas where can they go and check you

2869
02:22:43,780 --> 02:22:41,061
out each week well it's the creepy Vegas

2870
02:22:46,990 --> 02:22:43,790
ghosts and UFOs show we do it every

2871
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:47,000
Saturday at 7 p.m. at Millennium fandom

2872
02:22:53,051 --> 02:22:50,240
just go to creepy Vegas calm a couple

2873
02:22:54,940 --> 02:22:53,061
things quickly the new books that I had

2874
02:22:58,570 --> 02:22:54,950
contributed in chapter 2 is called area

2875
02:23:00,310 --> 02:22:58,580
51 warning keep out you should check

2876
02:23:03,400 --> 02:23:00,320
that out on Amazon and you wrote that

2877
02:23:05,470 --> 02:23:03,410
you contributed with Timothy back Lee

2878
02:23:07,421 --> 02:23:05,480
right that's right Tim Beck Lee good

2879
02:23:10,091 --> 02:23:07,431
I've known Tim Beck Lee over 20 years

2880
02:23:13,511 --> 02:23:10,101
now and if you go to Joshua Pete Warren

2881
02:23:17,290 --> 02:23:13,521
com go to the gallery of the strange but

2882
02:23:19,210 --> 02:23:17,300
also go to the Curiosity Shop and you

2883
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:19,220
will see some things that you will not

2884
02:23:24,761 --> 02:23:22,010
be able to attain anywhere else in the

2885
02:23:27,551 --> 02:23:24,771
world and I promise you thank you so

2886
02:23:28,900 --> 02:23:27,561
much tell Tim I said hello and we got to

2887
02:23:31,120 --> 02:23:28,910
get him on the show okay

2888
02:23:33,250 --> 02:23:31,130
and I reach out reach out to Steve as

2889
02:23:36,310 --> 02:23:33,260
well I would like him to come out and

2890
02:23:38,051 --> 02:23:36,320
comment about this video and we'll work

2891
02:23:39,730 --> 02:23:38,061
on a project together let's get this

2892
02:23:42,490 --> 02:23:39,740
thing out there I want the masses in the

2893
02:23:45,011 --> 02:23:42,500
media to see this they need to see the

2894
02:23:47,171 --> 02:23:45,021
good and plenty over Las Vegas thank you

2895
02:23:49,511 --> 02:23:47,181
so much Joshua be safe out there my

2896
02:23:50,950 --> 02:23:49,521
friend hey thank you always a pleasure

2897
02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:50,960
to me you're the best

2898
02:23:57,490 --> 02:23:54,290
Joshua P Warren again Joshua P Warren

2899
02:23:59,680 --> 02:23:57,500
calm simple to get to but the links are

2900
02:24:01,750 --> 02:23:59,690
over at Jimmy Church radio calm and he's

2901
02:24:04,330 --> 02:24:01,760
absolutely right when you get there

2902
02:24:06,250 --> 02:24:04,340
check it out but go to curiosity shop

2903
02:24:08,200 --> 02:24:06,260
and spend a few minutes there it's

2904
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:08,210
absolutely amazing and with that I got

2905
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:10,960
to get out of here tomorrow night's

2906
02:24:16,390 --> 02:24:14,450
logistics moving in our direction we

2907
02:24:18,841 --> 02:24:16,400
will have Brian Forrester here live from

2908
02:24:21,730 --> 02:24:18,851
Turkey's on his way to gobekli tepe and

2909
02:24:24,190 --> 02:24:21,740
rah will be joining us tomorrow night

2910
02:24:26,680 --> 02:24:24,200
until then I want everybody to be safe

2911
02:24:28,570 --> 02:24:26,690
feed the blacks executive producer is

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ritika Mariana chose please buy him J

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Palmer nay Dennis and Bob announcers our

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music doug aldrich intro space boys

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space boy music calm fade to black is

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produced by kjsurya and syndication is

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kgr a the planet this broadcast zona

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copyright a 2019 by paid to black in the

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game-changer Network

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it cannot be rebroadcast download a copy

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to your used anywhere in the known

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universe without written permission from

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fade to black or the game changer

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network I'm Yours Jimmy Church you can

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follow me on twitter @ JT radio you can

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follow Joshua at Joshua P Warren right

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there on Twitter I just popped the links

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up right there in my feed until tomorrow

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night everybody be saved

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go back Lee Tepe

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